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Bronco's record versus end of season ranked opponents
donnerstag
11/29/15 9:33am
That's not a good record. How does it compare to every other coach?
Beggar
11/29/15 9:34am
And every other coach not named Urban or Nick
keithcoug
11/29/15 9:36am
Winning 1 in 8 isn't good even when compared to peers
donnerstag
11/29/15 9:38am
You going to provide some data/examples to support what you're saying?
Westsider
11/29/15 9:41am
ok, give % for Whittingham, Gary Anderson, some coaches
Beggar
11/29/15 9:42am
Here are some comparables
donnerstag
11/29/15 9:47am
Home vs away?
Beggar
11/29/15 9:54am
This is huge.
Blue Cat
11/29/15 9:58am
Feel free to run the query on each coach you want
donnerstag
11/29/15 10:04am
I'm just providing context.
Blue Cat
11/29/15 10:14am
So about 50% of the losses were road games....hmmm
kotacoug
11/29/15 10:19am
How was Boise for neutral games?
Deleted
11/29/15 10:42am
And you didn't even compare bsu road games.
Deleted
11/29/15 10:42am
Query All Coaches At Once
boxedlunch
11/30/15 3:07pm
Ouch.
thebruce
11/30/15 3:16pm
Ken Nuimatalolo....0-13 and many others worse
Modiolus
11/30/15 3:40pm
2-5 isn't good either
Deleted
11/29/15 10:09am
It isn't bad either.
Blue Cat
11/29/15 10:20am
wait...they all coach P5 schools
byukarl
11/29/15 9:56am
Patterson/Peterson did most of their damage at G5 schools in the data
thebruce
11/29/15 10:47am
And those that aren't p5 got to p5 status
BYU '80
11/29/15 11:26am
Only 7 games at home.
Blue Cat
11/29/15 9:36am
Ouch. Id be happy with 40%. Tough games to win.
Turnpike Lane
11/29/15 9:36am
Lavell won 24% of his games against such competition
Blue Cat
11/29/15 9:44am
1 in 4 games is much better than 1 in 8 (almost 9)
donnerstag
11/29/15 9:48am
not even the same comparison
byukarl
11/29/15 9:52am
You mean like Boise and TCU?
donnerstag
11/29/15 9:55am
They are also fair comparisons based on recruiting
Turnpike Lane
11/29/15 10:06am
TCU has an honor code? recruiting comparisons aren't easy to make
acougfan
11/29/15 10:10am
Stop using honor code excuse. It's lame.
Turnpike Lane
11/29/15 10:14am
I wasn't making excuses and was just stating it to show it makes comparisons
acougfan
11/29/15 10:21am
I wasn't comparing Lavell to Bronco
Blue Cat
11/29/15 9:53am
game is different now
byukarl
11/29/15 9:49am
3-23 is now a great job?
Turnpike Lane
11/29/15 9:56am
While this is very anemic, teams are in the top 25 because they don't lose many
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 9:40am
RE: While this is very anemic, teams are in the top 25 because they don't lose
byukarl
11/29/15 9:43am
Losing to bYu=non P5 bad loss=harder to be ranked
Modiolus
11/29/15 9:45am
And lavells?
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 9:46am
He won a NC and top 10 finishes.
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 9:59am
He also did that in the wac.
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 10:05am
My point is that people should not compare him to Bronco. Bronco has not done anything close to Lavell even with the
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 10:09am
That's much different than what bronco has had?
macaroni
11/29/15 10:32am
Top 25 teams usually have 2 losses or fewer, losing to BYU can often be enough
Duke Silver
11/29/15 9:47am
I think he has the ability to change this but he would need to change his approach. He takes the blame for losses but he
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 10:02am
Bronco's P5 Record since independence:
Bgash
11/29/15 10:26am
P5 wins were against bottom dweller teams for the most part
donnerstag
11/29/15 10:28am
Agreed. I'm not thrilled with these results. Plus this is with BSU type
Bgash
11/29/15 10:31am
BYU is 2-2 with BSU
thebruce
11/29/15 10:37am
Yeah I need to update for this year. DONE.
Bgash
11/29/15 10:38am
Yeah, and 12-16 isn't going to cut it as Indy.
Kerbouchard
11/29/15 12:30pm
Well, if we beat them, that 1 extra loss makes it much harder to be ranked
viper
11/29/15 10:47am
Same for other schools who have better records vs these teams
Deleted
11/29/15 10:52am
Not always true if it's a team on the fringe.
Beggar
11/29/15 10:53am
Which is why it is only fair to compare bronco with other coaches %
thebruce
11/29/15 10:55am
Do teams that lose to BYU suffer loss of morale and go into a tailspin?
Sandstone Cougar
11/29/15 10:57am
They do when we knock out their Heisman winning QB.
Superman21
11/29/15 2:29pm
Bronco is so amazing, how could anyone ever beat that record?
SBJ
11/29/15 11:43am
Geesh, and the wins aren't even that great.
ag4cougs
11/29/15 1:08pm
You realize that teams that end the season ranked, win nearly all of their games
Freddie Cougar
11/29/15 1:26pm
That's why BYU doesn't end the seasons ranked.
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 1:28pm
You never miss an opportunity to take your shot do you.
Freddie Cougar
11/29/15 1:30pm
Irony alert.
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 1:55pm
Still clueless, I see.
Freddie Cougar
11/29/15 1:56pm
About as clueless as you.
slowhiteguy
11/29/15 2:01pm
Bad excuse for the 3-23 record
SBJ
11/29/15 2:34pm
It's not an excuse, it's a reality
Freddie Cougar
11/29/15 6:16pm
How many of the 26 opponents...
BYU'01
11/29/15 8:30pm
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