Two things changed: ACC network and extended GOR, and B12 announced expansion

Oct 18, 2016
2:22:45pm

DrBYU All-American

Followed by their happy at 10 proclamation. The landscape has fundamentally changed. It may change again, but as for now Indy is more attractive than available options.

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Why being an Independent in football is sustainable

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:02pm

Holmoe and Mendenhall have both gone on record saying it's not sustainable. Are you doubting them?

buffgato

10/18/16 2:05pm

Yes.

spoxjox

10/18/16 2:05pm

A little common sense. If the conditions of being independent change, so does

bluebrotha

10/18/16 2:07pm

A quick Google search indicates they said this as recently as 2015. Has the CFB environment fundamentally changed since?

buffgato

10/18/16 2:11pm

Two things changed: ACC network and extended GOR, and B12 announced expansion

DrBYU

10/18/16 2:22pm

Yep. TH was talking money difference w/P5. Going back to G5 makes that worse.

SCcoug

10/18/16 2:26pm

More attractive is not the same thing as sustainable

buffgato

10/18/16 2:27pm

So you believe BYU Football is going to die?

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:35pm

I don't know, I'm not the one looking at the balance sheet. It's a very interesting word choice, like TH knows something

buffgato

10/18/16 3:12pm

So you admit Holmoe also meant "Going back to a G5 conf is even less sustainable

bluebrotha

10/18/16 3:13pm

Huh? I didn't say anything about that. It's probably true though.

buffgato

10/18/16 3:33pm

Mendenhall is on record as saying that

wapiti

10/18/16 2:08pm

RE: Holmoe and Mendenhall have both gone on record saying it's not sustainable.

TheLoneCougar

10/18/16 2:52pm

Depends on if you think Holmoe was being sincere or playing the PR game

TNT

10/18/16 2:05pm

Good points

SnickSnack

10/18/16 2:05pm

better forward this to tom holmoe

nashty

10/18/16 2:05pm

LOL. I'm pretty sure Holmoe knows a thing or two about this topic.

Bostonblue

10/18/16 2:22pm

he does know a lot...and HE AGREES WITH ME!!!

nashty

10/18/16 2:58pm

Wrong. The whole point of his interview last Friday was to prove unequivocally

Bostonblue

10/18/16 3:27pm

you are, again, wrong. for many reasons:

nashty

10/18/16 5:32pm

Props for the stubbornness Nashty. But you better have your come to the light

Bostonblue

10/18/16 6:17pm

Yes it is sustainable, and that has been proven by the years we have been Indy.

TheLoneCougar

10/18/16 3:02pm

What does the past really prove though? TH's comments gave me the impression that he feels the squeeze more every year

buffgato

10/18/16 3:16pm

Potentially that is true, but our contract is up here in a year or two and we

TheLoneCougar

10/19/16 9:55am

I'm waiting for TH to tell me its sustainable everything I've heard is its not

franklyvulgar

10/18/16 2:06pm

So you believe that BYU would be better off in the AAC or MWC

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:21pm

I don't know all I know is TH has repeatedly said indy is not sustainable

franklyvulgar

10/18/16 2:25pm

TH wanted badly for BYU to get into a P-5, it didn't happen

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:27pm

Not quite. He's said the financial difference isn't sustainable.

SCcoug

10/18/16 2:28pm

Meaning remain competitive with P5 teams with the financial gap in place?

franklyvulgar

10/18/16 2:30pm

That's what I understood. Coaching salaries, facilities, budgets, etc.

SCcoug

10/18/16 2:33pm

The future scheduling is not sustainable

El Paso Coug

10/18/16 2:49pm

the need to schedule 8-10 P5 teams is a real issue

Nat Gas Man

10/18/16 2:06pm

In what way? If we go to the AAC or the MWC, how many P5 games

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:19pm

I think it's very sustainable too....if BYU can win those amazing games

reagan21

10/18/16 2:07pm

ESPN has been able to get a lot of those matchups

TNT

10/18/16 2:08pm

with ESPN's financial troubles I'd look to these pay games

reagan21

10/18/16 2:09pm

Yep, it's not perfect but BYU can do it. Need donors to step up.

Bostonblue

10/18/16 2:08pm

Independence is fun, it just makes our athletic director work harder than any

Super Chicken

10/18/16 2:10pm

The thing about Alabama is, they aren't very good TV. Too many blow outs.

Coach's Dad

10/18/16 2:10pm

unless schools start to decline scheduling us.

oryguncoug

10/18/16 2:14pm

You are assuming that we can continue to put together schedules like this year

El Paso Coug

10/18/16 2:48pm

Our schedules are starting to take shape all of the way out to 2023

kimdaddy35

10/18/16 2:53pm

Still need 3 more P5 schools to add . . .

El Paso Coug

10/18/16 3:47pm

It absolutely is "sustainable" if that word and definition is what you are using

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