it would have been the right move had we gotten into a p5. now we are

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Jan 2, 2018
2:11:54pm

johnnycarson All-American

in a mess.

indy is only the answer if you know you have a place to land, imo.

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johnnycarson

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New AD, please.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:01pm

RE: New AD, please.

darkcoug

1/2/18 2:02pm

RE: New AD, please.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:08pm

I wouldnt necessarily be opposed to tying his future to kalani

Deleted

1/2/18 2:02pm

sure. but i don't know that a new guy is gonna make a huge difference.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:03pm

okay, who?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:03pm

Rondo

thejimmer

1/2/18 2:07pm

wouldnt he still be AD if he was doing a good job/wanted to be here?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:11pm

Rondo was a fantastic AD.

boogers

1/2/18 2:13pm

I'm not arguing that he wasnt. My question is why didnt he stay then?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:18pm

He got run by incompetent leadership above him.

Turnpike Lane

1/2/18 2:18pm

^^ This ^^...huge ego above him crippled all the good he could have done

CLCougar

1/2/18 2:28pm

He was my bishop, very good man.

Pretorian

1/2/18 2:16pm

Nobody with any current ties to BYU. Should have played sports at BYU, probably

Nat Gas Man

1/2/18 2:09pm

So when other's say that Kalani interviewed a ton of people

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:08pm

Never said that.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:08pm

This time or the first time 2 years ago?

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:09pm

RE: This time or the first time 2 years ago?

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:11pm

I believe it the first time around.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:15pm

i think bronco left for his own reasons. and it wasn't because the fans hated

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:09pm

I don’t know but think Bronco & Family didn’t like coaching at BYU because of the spotlight. JMO

SouthernBlueBlood

1/2/18 2:12pm

its a tough place. its unwinnable yet the fanbase won't let you alone.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:14pm

His wife never liked Utah much to begin with.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:16pm

And also because the AD wouldn't give him the support he needed. He had to work

CharlottesvilleCoug

1/2/18 2:37pm

Just curious- what additional support did Bronco need at BYU? (besides a raise)

thejimmer

1/2/18 3:01pm

He left for $$$$$$$$$ anyone would've done it

Dissenter

1/3/18 9:06am

I agree with you...

Coug

1/2/18 2:09pm

Ugh.. please no with Santiago.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:12pm

agreed. i think you need more cred than he's got. its

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:13pm

i would take a leave of absence from BYU sports

gwill

1/2/18 3:56pm

That’s like George Bush having Dan Quayle as his VP.

Cougar Jazz Fan

1/2/18 2:19pm

And to be fair, going Indy when they did was the right move.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:10pm

it would have been the right move had we gotten into a p5. now we are

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:11pm

Well yes I agree. I think they had some pretty good indicators that we

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:13pm

That’s about as short-sighted Monday-morning-quarterbacking

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 2:31pm

so we were forced into going indy? forced? no. we were not.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:40pm

Um, no. They chose the better of two second-rate options.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 6:44pm

Going Indy wasn't so much of a problem...

Coug

1/2/18 2:12pm

If someone was going to throw anything at Holmoe to suggest he be fired,

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:14pm

Samuelson did leave after that timeframe...

BYUFam1

1/2/18 2:46pm

100% correct move.

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:13pm

Danny Ainge

LaVellIfIKnow

1/2/18 2:15pm

RE: Danny Ainge

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:16pm

This would be a very good choice...not sure he would do it. The AD at BYU

Nat Gas Man

1/2/18 2:22pm

Ainge should demand AD become VP-level or he's out (not that he was ever in)...

The Chelsea Dagger

1/2/18 4:13pm

Really smart to keep an Admin. between a high level GA in case of scandal

NSFW

1/2/18 10:35pm

yeah...i'm sure he'd leave his position was pres of C's to be AD at BYU...

nashty

1/2/18 2:49pm

At first I thought that was stupid. Who'd give up millions? But then

2YDAD

1/2/18 2:50pm

Tom Holmoe is a flipping wizard

jonnnylingo

1/2/18 2:17pm

What has he done that an average AD wouldn't do?

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:18pm

football and basketball are a mess. he's not a wizard.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:20pm

Uh our hoops team is like 11-3 & is mostly sophs. Hows that a mess?

BYUfan92

1/2/18 2:27pm

hasbn't been to the dance in a few years. won't go this year. and this was

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:37pm

Thats a long way from a mess IMO.

BYUfan92

1/2/18 2:41pm

Basketball is not a mess.

Y-Phile

1/3/18 9:56am

His job is over the entire athletic department and BYU's other sports are on

Byron McNertney

1/2/18 2:24pm

AD's are fired over football or bball all the time. its the only thing that

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:51pm

So you know Brian Santiago, and he wants a promotion?

Turnpike Lane

1/2/18 2:18pm

How sad people think that. Tom is the front

BYU71

1/2/18 2:19pm

So much of what you posted is echo chamber conjecture.

gwalker

1/2/18 2:21pm

Well said and agree.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:22pm

He's also has to do his job at a university that is not willing to spend

Byron McNertney

1/2/18 2:27pm

It's hard for me to give credit to Holmoe for Bronco and Rose

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:42pm

So you have excuses for the positives and won't allow them for the negatives?

gwalker

1/2/18 2:45pm

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.

PhilPete

1/2/18 2:44pm

Chad Lewis

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

1/2/18 2:21pm

Love Chad. Don't think he'd be an upgrade.

gwalker

1/2/18 2:21pm

Seems like a good dude. Also seems like he'd be a yes-man if he ever got the job

The Chelsea Dagger

1/2/18 4:16pm

And i should believe any of that message board conjecture why?

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 2:37pm

ha ha Tom Holmoe has been a great AD. You obviously don't know what you are ...

BYU Grounds

1/2/18 2:39pm

Some advice for your future...

BYUFam1

1/2/18 2:40pm

This ☝️#TRUTHBOMB !

kahuna

1/2/18 2:42pm

With friends like these...

Refugee

1/2/18 2:43pm

So many on here have such strong opinions, yet couldn't manage their own way out

PhilPete

1/2/18 2:48pm

Dave Checketts would be a great choice

kahuna

1/2/18 2:50pm

He'll be in London on his mission.

zonacougar

1/2/18 2:58pm

I don't think you know for sure if anything you stated is in fact true.

dreamlvr

1/2/18 2:51pm

Tom Holmoe Hates BYU! That must be it!

zonacougar

1/2/18 2:54pm

I'm not calling for his job, but I am growing impatient with independence and

dreamlvr

1/2/18 5:44pm

what a stupid idea.

ChinaFan

1/2/18 8:17pm

You... You... You don't know any of that

Dissenter

1/3/18 9:06am

Oh, please. Most of your points aren't factual, BYU had no choice but to go indy,

Y-Phile

1/3/18 10:01am

"other qualified coaches" sure, whatever you say

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