Going Indy wasn't so much of a problem...

Jan 2, 2018
2:12:58pm

Coug All-American

If BYU and those involved didn't mess up BYU's chance of joining the BIGXII when they were expanding back in 2011. That was possibly the biggest blunder and mistake in BYU's athletic history... and the fact that nobody got fired over it, is amazing.

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New AD, please.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:01pm

RE: New AD, please.

darkcoug

1/2/18 2:02pm

RE: New AD, please.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:08pm

sure. but i don't know that a new guy is gonna make a huge difference.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:03pm

okay, who?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:03pm

Rondo

thejimmer

1/2/18 2:07pm

wouldnt he still be AD if he was doing a good job/wanted to be here?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:11pm

Rondo was a fantastic AD.

boogers

1/2/18 2:13pm

I'm not arguing that he wasnt. My question is why didnt he stay then?

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:18pm

He got run by incompetent leadership above him.

Turnpike Lane

1/2/18 2:18pm

^^ This ^^...huge ego above him crippled all the good he could have done

CLCougar

1/2/18 2:28pm

He was my bishop, very good man.

Pretorian

1/2/18 2:16pm

Nobody with any current ties to BYU. Should have played sports at BYU, probably

Nat Gas Man

1/2/18 2:09pm

So when other's say that Kalani interviewed a ton of people

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:08pm

Never said that.

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:08pm

This time or the first time 2 years ago?

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:09pm

RE: This time or the first time 2 years ago?

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:11pm

I believe it the first time around.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:15pm

i think bronco left for his own reasons. and it wasn't because the fans hated

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:09pm

I don’t know but think Bronco & Family didn’t like coaching at BYU because of the spotlight. JMO

SouthernBlueBlood

1/2/18 2:12pm

its a tough place. its unwinnable yet the fanbase won't let you alone.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:14pm

His wife never liked Utah much to begin with.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:16pm

And also because the AD wouldn't give him the support he needed. He had to work

CharlottesvilleCoug

1/2/18 2:37pm

Just curious- what additional support did Bronco need at BYU? (besides a raise)

thejimmer

1/2/18 3:01pm

He left for $$$$$$$$$ anyone would've done it

Dissenter

1/3/18 9:06am

I agree with you...

Coug

1/2/18 2:09pm

Ugh.. please no with Santiago.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:12pm

agreed. i think you need more cred than he's got. its

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:13pm

i would take a leave of absence from BYU sports

gwill

1/2/18 3:56pm

That’s like George Bush having Dan Quayle as his VP.

Cougar Jazz Fan

1/2/18 2:19pm

And to be fair, going Indy when they did was the right move.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:10pm

it would have been the right move had we gotten into a p5. now we are

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:11pm

Well yes I agree. I think they had some pretty good indicators that we

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:13pm

That’s about as short-sighted Monday-morning-quarterbacking

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 2:31pm

so we were forced into going indy? forced? no. we were not.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:40pm

Um, no. They chose the better of two second-rate options.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 6:44pm

Going Indy wasn't so much of a problem...

Coug

1/2/18 2:12pm

If someone was going to throw anything at Holmoe to suggest he be fired,

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:14pm

Samuelson did leave after that timeframe...

BYUFam1

1/2/18 2:46pm

100% correct move.

TPcoug

1/2/18 2:13pm

Danny Ainge

LaVellIfIKnow

1/2/18 2:15pm

RE: Danny Ainge

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:16pm

This would be a very good choice...not sure he would do it. The AD at BYU

Nat Gas Man

1/2/18 2:22pm

Ainge should demand AD become VP-level or he's out (not that he was ever in)...

The Chelsea Dagger

1/2/18 4:13pm

Really smart to keep an Admin. between a high level GA in case of scandal

NSFW

1/2/18 10:35pm

yeah...i'm sure he'd leave his position was pres of C's to be AD at BYU...

nashty

1/2/18 2:49pm

At first I thought that was stupid. Who'd give up millions? But then

2YDAD

1/2/18 2:50pm

Tom Holmoe is a flipping wizard

jonnnylingo

1/2/18 2:17pm

What has he done that an average AD wouldn't do?

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:18pm

football and basketball are a mess. he's not a wizard.

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:20pm

Uh our hoops team is like 11-3 & is mostly sophs. Hows that a mess?

BYUfan92

1/2/18 2:27pm

hasbn't been to the dance in a few years. won't go this year. and this was

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:37pm

Thats a long way from a mess IMO.

BYUfan92

1/2/18 2:41pm

Basketball is not a mess.

Y-Phile

1/3/18 9:56am

His job is over the entire athletic department and BYU's other sports are on

Byron McNertney

1/2/18 2:24pm

AD's are fired over football or bball all the time. its the only thing that

johnnycarson

1/2/18 2:51pm

So you know Brian Santiago, and he wants a promotion?

Turnpike Lane

1/2/18 2:18pm

How sad people think that. Tom is the front

BYU71

1/2/18 2:19pm

So much of what you posted is echo chamber conjecture.

gwalker

1/2/18 2:21pm

Well said and agree.

RaggaeCoug

1/2/18 2:22pm

He's also has to do his job at a university that is not willing to spend

Byron McNertney

1/2/18 2:27pm

It's hard for me to give credit to Holmoe for Bronco and Rose

BlueVU

1/2/18 2:42pm

So you have excuses for the positives and won't allow them for the negatives?

gwalker

1/2/18 2:45pm

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.

PhilPete

1/2/18 2:44pm

Chad Lewis

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

1/2/18 2:21pm

Love Chad. Don't think he'd be an upgrade.

gwalker

1/2/18 2:21pm

Seems like a good dude. Also seems like he'd be a yes-man if he ever got the job

The Chelsea Dagger

1/2/18 4:16pm

And i should believe any of that message board conjecture why?

StalwartBraveTrue

1/2/18 2:37pm

ha ha Tom Holmoe has been a great AD. You obviously don't know what you are ...

BYU Grounds

1/2/18 2:39pm

Some advice for your future...

BYUFam1

1/2/18 2:40pm

This ☝️#TRUTHBOMB !

kahuna

1/2/18 2:42pm

With friends like these...

Refugee

1/2/18 2:43pm

So many on here have such strong opinions, yet couldn't manage their own way out

PhilPete

1/2/18 2:48pm

Dave Checketts would be a great choice

kahuna

1/2/18 2:50pm

He'll be in London on his mission.

zonacougar

1/2/18 2:58pm

I don't think you know for sure if anything you stated is in fact true.

dreamlvr

1/2/18 2:51pm

Tom Holmoe Hates BYU! That must be it!

zonacougar

1/2/18 2:54pm

I'm not calling for his job, but I am growing impatient with independence and

dreamlvr

1/2/18 5:44pm

what a stupid idea.

ChinaFan

1/2/18 8:17pm

You... You... You don't know any of that

Dissenter

1/3/18 9:06am

Oh, please. Most of your points aren't factual, BYU had no choice but to go indy,

Y-Phile

1/3/18 10:01am

"other qualified coaches" sure, whatever you say

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