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Apr 22, 2018
1:01:21pm

ToasterChive All-American

Did BYU or UCF take 2nd in any of these seasons?

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ToasterChive

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Theres no other sport where if you beat everyone you play youre not the champion

ToasterChive

4/22/18 12:52pm

No- they can’t be because the rules fair or not say they aren’t champions

SouthernBlueBlood

4/22/18 12:55pm

Louisville 2013 NCAA Baseketball Champions

scootsy

4/22/18 12:56pm

Except the rules do say they are.

molodyets

4/22/18 1:41pm

What rules?

Left Shark Coug

4/22/18 1:45pm

Only the winner of the CFP is NC. If you’re not one of the four you can’t be the one. That rule.

SouthernBlueBlood

4/22/18 8:18pm

Those aren't NCAA rules.

Left Shark Coug

4/22/18 11:17pm

They are the rules that are recognized as the way we pick a NC

SouthernBlueBlood

4/23/18 4:34am

Not the ones I recognize.

Y2k

4/23/18 11:21pm

CFP operates outside the NCAA and it’s accepted

Everyman

5/4/18 6:53am

It’s also rejected

Y2k

5/5/18 12:24am

Sooooo...do you acknowledge Utah as a two time champ in football too?

macaroni

4/22/18 12:58pm

That’s not relevant. Not here.

Y2k

4/22/18 1:00pm

Uhhhh... why not?

SuperTank

4/22/18 1:19pm

Because utes suck and have no business here.

RoyalPuma

4/22/18 7:29pm

PGA tour can be won by someone who takes 2nd at every event.

Y2k

4/22/18 12:59pm

Thinking of ncaa bball, baseball, hockey, NBA, NFL, MLB, MLB etc l..

ToasterChive

4/22/18 1:01pm

..and taking 2nd isn't beating everyone you play.

ToasterChive

4/22/18 1:12pm

Great comparison in two similar sports...

mobomanjoe

4/22/18 1:13pm

Here’s an NFL possibility

Y2k

4/22/18 2:02pm

Wouldn’t that be the opposite of the example in the OP. Beat no one and win?

zerome4sooners

4/22/18 2:42pm

Unless you’re the team that went 14-2 and got left out

Y2k

4/22/18 11:03pm

No one thinks the current system isn’t flawed. But it’s what they agreed to...

mobomanjoe

4/22/18 12:59pm

Agreed. More like given 1 option and asked if you want to participate or shut

Y2k

4/22/18 1:01pm

I’m not saying it is a fair system.

mobomanjoe

4/22/18 1:10pm

I doubt the g5 schools agreed to anything.

johnnycarson

4/22/18 1:17pm

They voted for it so that they could get the one NY6 game and $1M/school

Nat Gas Man

4/22/18 1:45pm

And the G5 commissioners form part of the 11-member

Everyman

4/22/18 2:07pm

"That's what they agreed to" You think they had a choice? They agreed in the

Sandstone Cougar

4/22/18 2:49pm

NCAA football is in desperate need of a 12-16 team playoff

Jericho

4/22/18 1:13pm

Eight teams, five conference champs and three wildcards

RC Vikings

4/22/18 1:32pm

That won't get any G5 teams in. I agree you need at least 12 teams.

mwcoug

4/22/18 1:38pm

That’s not true, UCF would have been in with eight teams in this year

RC Vikings

4/22/18 1:44pm

No they wouldn't. They were #12 in the final CFP.

molodyets

4/22/18 1:49pm

This is correct. They were #12 with all 5 P5 champs ahead of them at the end

mwcoug

4/22/18 1:52pm

Based off the current system but if they expand to eight teams and a G5 is

RC Vikings

4/22/18 2:00pm

What makes you think that? I see no reason why they allow a lower ranked G5

mwcoug

4/22/18 2:06pm

The basketball system, people love the idea of an underdog beating one of the

RC Vikings

4/22/18 2:16pm

They chose 3 non P6 at-large teams in the NCAA this year.

Fifty Shades of Blue

4/22/18 3:48pm

How about all the conference champions that are in the tourney, 1/2 of the

RC Vikings

4/22/18 5:49pm

Because they are guaranteed. Most of them wouldn't make it otherwise.

molodyets

4/22/18 6:05pm

I understand that, with eight teams they would need to rewrite how teams make

RC Vikings

4/22/18 6:45pm

So not based off the current system. You want a new system

molodyets

4/22/18 7:12pm

Any new system would be a total split between P5 and G5

Nat Gas Man

4/22/18 7:18pm

With eight teams you would have to rewrite it.

RC Vikings

4/22/18 8:11pm

There is no reason why there shouldn’t be a 16 team playoff. No reason.

Sandstone Cougar

4/22/18 3:09pm

Well there is one. The powers that be don’t want one

Nat Gas Man

4/22/18 3:41pm

Agreed: 16 teams. Have a 10 game regular season. Take the conference champions

BleedCougarBlue2

5/3/18 10:30pm

The thing I like about this, is that it helps push the narrative that we need an expanded playoff.

JohnnyComeLately

4/22/18 1:17pm

BYU got lucky in 1984 and became champion based on the agreed upon

CMuehle

4/22/18 1:17pm

Byu fans dismissing ucf is particularly ironic.

johnnycarson

4/22/18 1:35pm

I never dismissed their claims of being snubbed. I dismiss their NC claims.

mobomanjoe

4/22/18 1:52pm

Why do you even bother to act like you're a BYU fan at this point?

GigantorCat

4/22/18 11:30pm

No one would be talking about UCF right now if they didn't claim a championship.

Ute in DC

4/22/18 2:58pm

And, ultimately, nobody will ever talk about them as 2017 national champions.

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