USU’s Sagarin rating is an outlier. Every other computer ranking in the Massey

Sep 19, 2018
8:38:12pm

Josef K All-American

Composite has USU at least 15 places higher and most have USU twenty places higher than Sagarin.

Massey has BYU as a touchdown favorite over USU at Provo. That seems about right to me.

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College Football Ranking Composite

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

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Massey Ratings

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=300937&t0=Utah+St&h=-1&s1=300937&t1=BYU

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Getting no love from Sagarin. #61 (SOS is #13 to date). Utah State, Utah,

Scott_Tenorman

9/19/18 3:54pm

Just win.

Carnac

9/19/18 3:55pm

^^^This^^^

rerunc

9/19/18 6:31pm

It's got to still have some leftover from last year.

Iron Coug

9/19/18 3:56pm

Sagarin rating doesn't any subjectivity in his ratings. The problem here is the

Mr. Scoobs

9/19/18 3:57pm

As the season goes on, the preseason weightings are diminished and eventually

cougarfan84

9/19/18 4:02pm

Never eliminated, he's keeping 15% weight to last year's results all year

Kajdin

9/19/18 4:13pm

Only thing that makes me want to do is ignore Sagarin.

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:15pm

Why on earth would he do that? What does last year's results have to do with

cougarfan84

9/19/18 4:18pm

On the bright side, I guess the 4-9 team only sucked 85% as much as we thought

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:21pm

No idea why he thinks it's a good idea. I think it's stupid too.

Kajdin

9/19/18 4:37pm

...because it makes it more accurate overall.

molodyets

9/19/18 4:43pm

What are the effects?

Randall Toomey

9/19/18 4:53pm

it improved his game by game predictions. If it didn't it wouldn't be in there.

molodyets

9/19/18 5:07pm

Ha! More accurate based on whose subjectivity? The eye ball test? That is

cwilke1

9/19/18 4:53pm

Off of his previous formula backtesting for years and years of data.

molodyets

9/19/18 5:05pm

Those are great points I had not thought of.

cwilke1

9/19/18 5:10pm

Because it favors the big boys. It's obvious.

IrishBlue

9/19/18 6:46pm

Yes, in a system designed to ranked and project the final score of every game

molodyets

9/19/18 6:57pm

He's an idiot for weighting the prev year the same across the board. Nonsense.

ArchbishopMitty

9/19/18 8:28pm

It’s all about data points

McTailGator

9/20/18 6:41am

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JimmyZ

9/19/18 4:00pm

Also, close wins don't help. BYU needs a blow out victory to gain major ground.

Iron Coug

9/19/18 4:02pm

We were 91 in Massey Composite preseason. We're 54 now. Just keep winning.

molodyets

9/19/18 4:06pm

In this case I think sagarin is closer to reality than the AP poll

Josef K

9/19/18 4:07pm

Agree 100% our offense is not good.

AudiS4

9/19/18 4:13pm

Yep. Our O is flat

Coogar2

9/19/18 7:30pm

Sorry, but nothing utah state has done has shown better performance than byu

viper

9/19/18 7:04pm

USU’s Sagarin rating is an outlier. Every other computer ranking in the Massey

Josef K

9/19/18 8:38pm

Love McNeese at 160.

kooogar

9/19/18 7:53pm

Honestly, probably getting more love than BYU deserves from the AP

reddead

9/19/18 9:37pm

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