Toyota designers have been a little drunk as of late, starting with the current Camry.

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Jan 14, 2019
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Some nuggets from the Detroit Auto Show...

Tokolosh All-American

1/14/19 1:41pm

IS the Telluride an 8 seater or something?

Dillinger

1/14/19 1:44pm

Probably 6 with an option for 7. Looks similar to the VW Atlas.

kccougar

1/14/19 1:46pm

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East1999

1/14/19 1:56pm

For pricing I think they're targeting a budget luxury price. Probably $40k - $50k starting.

Tokolosh

1/14/19 1:58pm

$50K for a Kia. Ugh.

SierraCoug

1/14/19 2:12pm

Or $60,000...

Tokolosh

1/14/19 2:15pm

There’s no way anyone would pay 60k for a kia

PessimisticCB

1/14/19 5:17pm

Judging by the photos of some of the concepts, I wouldn't be surprised if it started in price at $33-35k

Bert609

1/14/19 5:47pm

Grand Cherokees cost 35K? I thought they were 45-55 nowadays.

Dillinger

1/14/19 5:49pm

My BIL's 2018 Trailhawk I reviewed was under $40 and that's a loaded trim package

Bert609

1/14/19 6:29pm

Hmmm, when I was selling cars in like 2011 Grand Cherokees were like 40 - 55.

Dillinger

1/14/19 6:33pm

You can get the msrp up there, but you never pay full price for a chrystler.

Bert609

1/14/19 6:37pm

Any photos out there of the new Z4?

kccougar

1/14/19 1:46pm

I haven't stumbled on anything for 2020 yet.

Tokolosh

1/14/19 1:49pm

RE: Any photos out there of the new Z4?

HawkBYU

1/14/19 8:41pm

Meh. Looks even a little more bloated than the last one.

kccougar

1/14/19 9:02pm

Yup, it'd be almost hard to classify it as a roadster now. I'm surprised BMW hasn't made it a 4 door "coupe" like the

Bert609

1/14/19 9:06pm

Seems silly since they have the 6-series already.

kccougar

1/14/19 9:11pm

Unlike most cars, they never did improve on the original

kccougar

1/14/19 9:14pm

2-series 4-door coupe will be coming next year

HawkBYU

1/14/19 9:15pm

BMW: making an e39 owner a Benz fan, one model release at a time

Bert609

1/14/19 9:19pm

I'm a little underwhelmed by the Supra. Looks like an FR-S/BRZ evolution to me.

4th and Niner

1/14/19 1:48pm

Toyota designers have been a little drunk as of late, starting with the current Camry.

kccougar

1/14/19 1:50pm

It’s funny to reflect on the old Supra in light of the new Camrys

4th and Niner

1/14/19 1:53pm

IMHO the only Japanese automaker with a lick of design sense is Mazda.

Tokolosh

1/14/19 1:56pm

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East1999

1/14/19 1:59pm

Good point. The WRX does tend to be pretty good looking.

Tokolosh

1/14/19 2:08pm

I'm hoping they release a hatchback version of the WRX again.

Oranje

1/14/19 2:11pm

I thought the Camry was a step in the right direction

HawkBYU

1/14/19 8:38pm

Anything on the Lincoln Aviator? Looks like a decent challenger to the XT6

Skeptical Optimist

1/14/19 1:51pm

Aviator came out at the LA Auto show and it does look nice. Could be an underappreciated challenger to the X7

Tokolosh

1/14/19 1:53pm

Grand Wagoneer coming back - will be interesting to see if people like it...

HarlemCoug

1/14/19 1:52pm

Please tell me they did the right thing and are going to build this one...

kccougar

1/14/19 2:00pm

I just saw the CEO say that they'll need more plant space in the US because of the Grand Wagoneer. Haven't seen any

HarlemCoug

1/14/19 2:01pm

Telluride looks like a Volvo XC90...nice look

Iman23

1/14/19 2:00pm

Is that what they're calling the west concourse these days?

bricej13

1/14/19 2:09pm

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Tokolosh

1/14/19 2:13pm

RE: ...

bricej13

1/14/19 2:21pm

Funny article in WSJ today about how many are VERY happy the show is moving from Jan to June next year.

Hank Rearden

1/14/19 2:20pm

Anything on the 2020 Tahoe/Yukons yet? I've got money burning a hole in my

BYUFBDAD

1/14/19 3:02pm

Still no Ford Bronco?

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