Unless, it’s your child and you have the benefit of hindsight.

Feb 13, 2019
6:33:55pm

SierraCoug All-American

As I said the risks are rare and the societal benefits outweigh those risks, but that’s faint consolation to parents of a child left with catastrophic injuries.

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Time

I'm not anti-vax....but

Borg

2/13/19 5:04pm

An honorable man once said, “Anything before but is [redacted]”

Andy Stitzer

2/13/19 5:06pm

TCuz is just going to lump you in as an anti-vaxxer. 😉

777

2/13/19 5:08pm

Wow. Thanks for saving me the effort!

TCuz

2/13/19 5:10pm

RE: Wow. Thanks for saving me the effort!

777

2/13/19 5:16pm

Ha... who cares! (I vaccinated my kids)

Borg

2/13/19 5:14pm

But! You are helping push anti-vax arguments and narratives. Gross.

TCuz

2/13/19 5:15pm

I'm not "pushing" anything. Merely posing a question

Borg

2/13/19 5:17pm

By giving any credibility to anti-vax thoughts you’re helping to push them

TCuz

2/13/19 5:19pm

Oh brother

Borg

2/13/19 5:22pm

Good point 🙄

CoachSpeak

2/13/19 7:09pm

Have you stopped beating your wife?

DapperDan

2/13/19 5:48pm

Wait. Borg is Jim Rome?

TNT

2/13/19 6:08pm

Which wife?

CougarThug

2/13/19 6:09pm

What’s the story here?

SJS

2/13/19 6:37pm

Is this a serious question?

Coug98

2/13/19 8:30pm

I don't know what the evidence suggests but I trust that vaccines do far

Jericho

2/13/19 5:10pm

So you think people should be able to free ride off of the rest of society

Scratch

2/13/19 5:18pm

Yup. I believe in freedom above all else.

Jericho

2/13/19 5:23pm

So should you be allowed to assault people? Drive drunk? Freedom above all else!

Scratch

2/13/19 5:24pm

Freedom to act independently and without government oversight

Jericho

2/13/19 5:27pm

So you're good with drunk driving. Don't think the government should get

Scratch

2/13/19 5:31pm

So, are you suggesting that people who don't get the flu shot should be

Jericho

2/13/19 5:34pm

Nope. Those things don't carry with them the same risks of failing to vaccinate.

Scratch

2/13/19 5:35pm

Really? 80,000 people died from the flu last year.

Jericho

2/13/19 5:44pm

Wait...we should just abort those who choose not too

Borg

2/13/19 5:42pm

uhhmmm....Yes. Lets be honest, anti-vaccers have all sorts of other undesirable

Bluedomination

2/13/19 7:05pm

Good advice for scratch

Borg

2/13/19 5:32pm

Anarchy! Woo hoo!

Scratch

2/13/19 5:33pm

It's called the non aggression principle. You should try it sometime.

molodyets

2/13/19 7:29pm

Was that aggressive? And if that’s aggressive then this would be an example of

Scratch

2/13/19 8:27pm

No, you implying that someone would think assault should be legal was stupid.

molodyets

2/13/19 8:31pm

That's what he said. Freedom above all else. Just pointing out what his

Scratch

2/13/19 8:47pm

No you took his a statement of hyperbole that would naturally include a logical

molodyets

2/13/19 8:49pm

I'm pointing out that there is a natural boundary, and vaccines are beyonf

Scratch

2/13/19 8:51pm

I'm for people refusing vaccines, but their children shouldn't be allowed within

Bluedomination

2/13/19 6:41pm

Ira about like pot causing schizophrenia. Some people are susceptible to vax

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 5:49pm

This has been thoroughly debunked in medical literature

WorfoSAUR

2/13/19 5:10pm

So what happened to Borg’s freind’s kid?

cheezedawg

2/13/19 5:12pm

Not that I don't believe Borg, but's it's always a friend's kid.

kccougar

2/13/19 5:13pm

Um... I know them personally

Borg

2/13/19 5:15pm

Probably some thing completely unrelated to the vaccinations.

BengalCougar

2/13/19 5:15pm

Whew...glad you cleared that up. I'll let them know

Borg

2/13/19 5:19pm

correlation doesn't mean causation.

POLISHcoug

2/13/19 5:47pm

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chilango

2/13/19 7:21pm

I started taking daily multi-vitamins last week. Got the flu yesterday.

cougfanblue

2/13/19 5:18pm

Somebody farted on your pillow

cheezedawg

2/13/19 5:19pm

RE: Somebody farted on your pillow

cougfanblue

2/13/19 5:22pm

I exercise, eat right...but im still gonna die

Borg

2/13/19 5:24pm

There is strong correlation between those who exercise and those who eventually die.

cougfanblue

2/13/19 5:37pm

I knew it!

Borg

2/13/19 5:43pm

The explanation: You are a dummy and didn't get a flu shot.

The Board Imbecile

2/13/19 5:24pm

I did! Required for my job. Maybe that caused it.

cougfanblue

2/13/19 5:30pm

Many of these disabilities appear around the same time vaccinations occur.

Scratch

2/13/19 5:21pm

Another reason to wait for a different "time"

Borg

2/13/19 5:26pm

Because it doesn't complicate anything. And saying that this is when these

Scratch

2/13/19 5:33pm

What handicap precisely?

Fatalplacebo

2/13/19 5:42pm

It's when they manifest, not arise. Being vaccinated doesn't complicate that or

swimbro

2/13/19 6:14pm

Woah woah woah. You have a really poor understanding of immunology.

Slim

2/13/19 7:37pm

The CDC doesn't deny that there are side effects to the shots. Why would

777

2/13/19 5:25pm

Lots of debilitating conditions have initial onset around vaccination age. Very

PGVikingDad

2/13/19 5:31pm

Some conditions don’t manifest until certain ages. Schizophrenia, for example,

gwalker

2/13/19 5:12pm

In fact, that's why autism was so readily linked to vaccines - because its often

darkcoug

2/13/19 5:17pm

The vaccine schedule and number of vaccines changes yearly by the CDC

777

2/13/19 5:20pm

20 shots and 3 liquid oral, but who’s counting😉

Cougar99

2/13/19 9:02pm

This is a great thought. The medical community has definitely not considered

Martin Van Nostrand

2/13/19 5:20pm

What handicaps precisely? It’s far-fetched to even consider your conjecture, but

ldssdl

2/13/19 5:26pm

I took my little daughter and my grandson to McDonald's today and it rained

Belboz

2/13/19 5:48pm

That's hardly appropriate punishment for going to McDonalds

CougarThug

2/13/19 6:17pm

I’ll give your opinion the weight it deserves given your medical credentials

CommodoreCoug

2/13/19 6:16pm

But he's just raising a question! No harm in that, right? Right?

ebv

2/13/19 6:24pm

Smart CBers will explain why the US has a vaccine injury compensation program if

SierraCoug

2/13/19 6:25pm

Nobody’s claiming that at all

CommodoreCoug

2/13/19 6:27pm

Unless, it’s your child and you have the benefit of hindsight.

SierraCoug

2/13/19 6:33pm

Yeah, if only we had time machines

CommodoreCoug

2/13/19 6:43pm

By the way nobody makes that claim?

SierraCoug

2/13/19 6:37pm

That post doesn’t at all claim what you said

CommodoreCoug

2/13/19 6:42pm

And you think your post about the compensation fund has anything in the world to do with that? LOL

shimmy

2/13/19 6:52pm

Here is the CDC list of KNOWN complications to each vaccine. I havent found the

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 6:38pm

Vaccination injuries occur. Vaccination fatalies occur. They didn't make Borg's friend handicapped and the schedule

shimmy

2/13/19 6:51pm

I'm so relieved. Thanks shimmy....thank you

Borg

2/13/19 7:01pm

Why are you relieved? A horrible thing happened to your friend.

shimmy

2/13/19 7:06pm

So now you deny the CD ? Or you cant read? Which is it? QUOTE from LINk abovee

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 7:36pm

Why don’t you keep reading you own link there pal. What does it say about the brain damage below?

shimmy

2/13/19 7:38pm

Here, I saved you the pain of having to type it out. This is what the next line says:

shimmy

2/13/19 7:41pm

Like i said that is 1 vax the mmr has no such caveat.here it is RIF

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:52pm

More importantly, does “spacing them out” reduce that risk?

Medute

2/13/19 8:39pm

There are genetic disorders that onset in early childhood resulting in mental

Bluedomination

2/13/19 6:59pm

Vaccines, word press, or penicillin.

shimmy

2/13/19 7:22pm

And the cdc states they cause seizuees,coma ,and PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE!

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 7:40pm

No, it doesn’t say that.

Scratch

2/13/19 7:57pm

Link.ok yourw right "reported"

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:39pm

What does the next line say dude?

shimmy

2/13/19 8:43pm

It never once says it causes brain damage. Not even close.

Scratch

2/13/19 8:47pm

You dien' t resd the mmr quote

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 9:04pm

LOUD NOISES!!

Fatalplacebo

2/13/19 7:59pm

Cause deafness..but someone will deny that too..because...."reasons"

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:45pm

You are wrong and should feel bad. All you have to do is read.

shimmy

2/13/19 8:17pm

What part of permanent brain damage do you not understand?

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:40pm

Carolina, part of reading is not stopping when you feel like stopping just to prove a point.

shimmy

2/13/19 8:42pm

Furthermore CDC"These problems generally occur 1-3 days after the shot."

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:43pm

Did you read this line or could you not see it?

shimmy

2/13/19 8:45pm

Look! It says BRAIN DAMAGE. Words before or after it mean nothing.

Fatalplacebo

2/13/19 8:50pm

Uh huh. Whats your explanation for this MMR risks then? Note the word "cause"

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 9:07pm

Note the words ‘very rarely’. All sorts of warnings are put into drugs and

Fatalplacebo

2/13/19 9:18pm

Im not debating rarity at all. Im debating rhe AT SLL part of vaccine safety for

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 9:33pm

I honestly don't care to decipher that mess.

Fatalplacebo

2/13/19 9:51pm

What did i say? I said that was 1 vaccine and others (mmr) say similar

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 8:58pm

No one is denying that there can be some very rare complications from these

Scratch

2/13/19 8:50pm

What is permanent brain damage? What things attributed to the vaccinations

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 9:00pm

Are you quoting the part that says these things have been reported as occurring

Scratch

2/13/19 9:24pm

I posted the entire quote or attempted to

CarolinaCoug

2/13/19 10:13pm

I'm with you. Vaccines are good but they need to be very spaced apart.

chazen

2/14/19 12:22am

Good strategy if you hate your kids.

TCuz

2/14/19 12:24am

LOL!

Virginia Ute

2/14/19 5:49am

Vaccines already are spaced apart

SJS

2/14/19 6:32am

He's not a doctor, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

CommodoreCoug

2/14/19 6:53am

I REALLY CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH

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