That all came out in the BALCO trial. The majority of MLB players were juicing. I argued this with friends endlessly. They would say, "well not the pitchers! Steroids don't help pitchers!" But now we know Clemens and other pitchers were juicing. I remember seeing Bagwell honored n Houston the year after he retired and I couldn't even recognize the guy. It looked like he had shed 30-40 lbs of muscle.