Credit for what? Fans didn’t want moral victories when we were winning 8

Aug 15, 2019
11:01:45am

ataylor All-American

Credit for what? Fans didn’t want moral victories when we were winning 8–9 games

on a regular basis, so why are we suddenly content with “improving” to six wins or less a year removed from getting all pumped up about playing a 7-6 MAC team in Boise to end the year and salvage seven wins?

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Sadly this team could be very improved and still start out 0-4

mudpupper

8/15/19 10:34am

I can tell you exactly how the first 4 games will go:

MikeDitka'sStache

8/15/19 10:38am

I'd take 2-2 and victory over Utah in a heart beat. Probably is I'm having

mudpupper

8/15/19 10:40am

I think they win one of the 3 home games against BCS foes.

Goatnapper'96

8/15/19 10:38am

Nor is 2-2 or even 3-1 out of the question. Quit building the case that, yeah

basman

8/15/19 10:39am

I think most unbiased observers expect BYU to start 0-4

franklyvulgar

8/15/19 10:39am

S&P and FPI expect you to go 1-3.

displacedute

8/15/19 10:42am

They expect BYU to lose each ind. game but the odds are that they steal 1.

TrueAggieBlue

8/15/19 10:45am

That is where I think it ends up.

Goatnapper'96

8/15/19 10:49am

2-2 is also more likely than 0-4 even w/ us considered "underdogs" in all 4.

jreid191

8/15/19 10:57am

Yep. 32/30% v. 17/19% (FPI/S&P)

displacedute

8/15/19 11:34am

Most odds/predictions from unbiased sources I've seen seem to expect a 1-3 start

jreid191

8/15/19 10:56am

Taken individually BYU will be an underdog in their first four games

BYU Fan

8/15/19 2:34pm

The team will be better but have worse record than last year - my stupid opinion

ag4cougs

8/15/19 10:40am

That is a very real possibility. But will fans give KS credit for that?

mudpupper

8/15/19 10:41am

I really think the fairest way to evaluate KS

Goatnapper'96

8/15/19 10:48am

I think that is pretty reasonable. BYU not only needs to win the backend games

mudpupper

8/15/19 10:53am

If we have a worse record. he definitely should not come back. That would be a losing season with 4 usual gimmies

Deleted

8/15/19 10:49am

Credit for what? Fans didn’t want moral victories when we were winning 8–9 games

ataylor

8/15/19 11:01am

BYU beat Wisconsin in Madison last year and should have beaten both Utah and BSU

ataylor

8/15/19 10:52am

I heard this last year as well (against FBS schools).

Benfica1

8/15/19 10:53am

Yep, I heard a lot of 0-4 predictions last year and we went 2-2.

D.T. Survivor

8/15/19 11:06am

Which is exactly why I’m not buying that we can be improved and go 0-4.

ataylor

8/15/19 11:10am

Except we went 3-1.

andrewg3

8/15/19 11:46am

We lost to Cal and Washington

cougartailaddict

8/15/19 12:10pm

Washington was the 5th game.

TrueAggieBlue

8/15/19 12:15pm

I don't think we're all on the same page here.

cougartailaddict

8/15/19 12:39pm

I didn't include McNeese State.

Benfica1

8/15/19 12:43pm

Good point. I forgot McNeese was in there.

D.T. Survivor

8/15/19 1:33pm

I would reluctantly agree. 6-6 is also a very real possibility even with a great

Pigskin Pete

8/15/19 10:55am

Great BYU teams don’t go 6-6. Sorry.

ataylor

8/15/19 10:57am

No great team at any school goes 6-6. No good team goes 6-6.

Plato

8/15/19 11:42am

Great BYU teams don't play the top end teams that BYU will play this year

BYU Fan

8/15/19 2:46pm

We're not a great team if we go 6-6. Good would even be debatable.

Left Shark Coug

8/15/19 10:58am

we play toledo, idaho state, liberty, SDSU, and umass. any average byu team beats all of them easily.

Deleted

8/15/19 11:02am

Average LaVell or Bronco team. Unfortunately the average team we’ve put on the

ataylor

8/15/19 11:03am

true, kalani can lose to anyone it seems.

Deleted

8/15/19 11:05am

SDSU is a better team than most realize.

The Y's Insider

8/15/19 11:09am

I will revise my previous statement to “good” Rather than great. We could be

Pigskin Pete

8/15/19 1:23pm

Based on ESPN's FPI ratings, there is only ~17% probability that we start 0-4.

Phasor

8/15/19 10:56am

Happily this team could start 4-0.

Lance71

8/15/19 11:06am

You could be standing out in the sun, still the rain's coming down

OldFogey

8/15/19 11:33am

FALSE. You lose 4 in a row, you are not good. Even against good competition.

Plato

8/15/19 11:38am

0-4 ain't happening. Stop it. These posts happen every year and it never happens

andrewg3

8/15/19 11:45am

Several P-5 programs could go 0-4 through this.

cougartailaddict

8/15/19 12:23pm

Love the spirit of optimism here. 😏

BleedCougarBlue2

8/15/19 12:13pm

I will look at 1-4 as hug victory. I think Tennessee gives BYU its best

PhilPete

8/15/19 12:33pm

If starting 1-4 is a huge victory. Im not sure i want to know what a huge defeat is

Deleted

8/15/19 1:27pm

1-3 is a huge success in my mind

Backcountry

8/15/19 1:20pm

RE: Sadly this team could be very improved and still start out 0-4

Gerald-DeGroot

8/15/19 1:54pm

I'm expecting 0-4 and will be thrilled if otherwise

YSeattle

8/15/19 2:28pm

My, how far we've fallen. "Thrilled", really?

The Y's Insider

8/15/19 3:12pm

Any win over a P5 program with massively superior talen and resources is a big

Backcountry

8/15/19 3:26pm

How many road wins does BYU have against the SEC?

BYU Fan

8/15/19 3:39pm

Wow. Just... wow.

Gerald-DeGroot

8/15/19 3:57pm

You are correct....

wilsdad

8/15/19 3:47pm

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