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Sep 19, 2019
1:24:22pm
boogers All-American
My objective bottom line for the KS era to date

I don't know if KS is a good coach or not or if he is improving significantly or not.  I admit to not being an avid fan of him personally at this point.  I just want him to be successful because I want BYU to be successful.

I do know that it feels like his "administration" has lost a lot of important games and had a lot of bad losses, despite having some good wins.

As a way of trying to get a better feel for how BYU has done under KS, beyond the emotions of coaching changes and week to week wins and losses, I grouped all of BYU's opponents in the last 4 seasons into 3 groups (4 really with group A having a sub-group).  I doubt everyone will agree exactly with how I divided the teams into groups, but I also doubt the disagreements will be very significant. 

See below schedule/results and groupings.  I think I got the schedule and records correct...

The bottom line, based on W/L's, indicates KS isn't that great, likely pretty bad.  So far this year, BYU appears to be on an upward trend, but ultimately the W/L results will make the case whether I like him personally or not.  

Here's the breakdown to date:

Group C :  Includes teams BYU should lose to maybe once in a generation and then only during a fluke game or randomn weird season.   Not a big deal to win these games, but a very big deal to lose these games.

BYU's record:  15-6.

Group B:  Includes teams BYU should probably not beat and are not a big deal if they lose, but are a big deal when they win. 

BYU's record:  2-3

Group A:  Includes teams that are important teams for BYU to beat.  These are games that are a big deal to win and a big deal to lose.  I included Boise and Utah in sub-group A1 and mid-level P5 teams in sub-group A2.  I would also include some G5 teams like SDSU in A2.  Some may say USU should be in this group, but I just can't take them seriously so they stay in group C.

BYU's A1 record: 0-7

BYU's A2 record: 5-4

Group W L
A1 0 7
A2 5 4
B 2 3
C 15 6
  22 20

 

2016       Group
3-Sep   vs. Arizona 18 - 16 W A2
10-Sep   @ Utah 19 - 20 L A1
17-Sep   UCLA 14 - 17 L A2
24-Sep   vs. West Virginia 32 - 35 L A2
30-Sep   Toledo 55 - 53 W C
8-Oct   @ Michigan State 31 - 14 W B
14-Oct   Mississippi State 28 - 21 W A2
20-Oct   @ Boise State 27 - 28 L A1
5-Nov   @ Cincinnati 20 - 3 W C
12-Nov   Southern Utah 37 - 7 W C
19-Nov   Massachusetts 51 - 9 W C
26-Nov   Utah State 28 - 10 W C
21-Dec   vs. Wyoming 24 - 21 W C
2017        
26-Aug   Portland State 20 - 6 W C
2-Sep   vs. LSU 0 - 27 L B
9-Sep   Utah 13 - 19 L A1
16-Sep   Wisconsin 6 - 40 L B
29-Sep   @ Utah State 24 - 40 L C
6-Oct   Boise State 7 - 24 L A1
14-Oct   @ Mississippi State 10 - 35 L A2
21-Oct   @ East Carolina 17 - 33 L C
28-Oct   San Jose State 41 - 20 W C
4-Nov   @ Fresno State 13 - 20 L C
11-Nov   @ UNLV 31 - 21 W C
18-Nov   Massachusetts 10 - 16 L C
25-Nov   @ Hawaii 30 - 20 W C
2018        
1-Sep   @ Arizona 28 - 23 W A2
8-Sep   California 18 - 21 L A2
15-Sep   @ Wisconsin 24 - 21 W B
22-Sep   McNeese State 30 - 3 W C
29-Sep   @ Washington 7 - 35 L B
5-Oct   Utah State 20 - 45 L C
13-Oct   Hawaii 49 - 23 W C
27-Oct   Northern Illinois 6 - 7 L C
3-Nov   @ Boise State 16 - 21 L A1
10-Nov   vs. Massachusetts 35 - 16 W C
17-Nov   New Mexico State 45 - 10 W C
24-Nov   @ Utah 27 - 35 L A1
21-Dec   vs. Western Michigan 49 - 18 W C
2019        
29-Aug   Utah 12 - 30 L A1
7-Sep   @ Tennessee 29 - 26 W A2
14-Sep   USC 30 - 27 W A2
21-Sep   Washington   B
28-Sep   @ Toledo   C
12-Oct   @ South Florida   C
19-Oct   Boise State   A1
2-Nov   @ Utah State   C
9-Nov   Liberty   C
16-Nov   Idaho State   C
23-Nov   @ Massachusetts   C
30-Nov   @ San Diego State   A2
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