and Herm is a good coach. I would never count ASU out of any PAC-12 game.
Random interesting fact: After this week the PAC-12 will have most two 1-loss teams and could have only 1, which would mean that they have less 1-loss teams then 3 other conferences (Big 12, SEC, Big 10) have undefeated teams (though Baylor might mess that up)