and he thought he was sinking our plans by ripping the heart out of

Jan 24, 2020
11:39:45pm

ManicBlue All-American

the WAC by offering MWC membership to Fresno St, Nevada, San Jose St, Utah St, and Hawaii football. He effectively killed the WAC and BYU was fortunate to get membership in the WCC.

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According to the U.S. and World News, the WCC became the highest ranked academic

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 12:24pm

Despite all the hand-wringing by some, BYU fits much better in the WCC than in

Mitty

1/24/20 12:32pm

True. And over the past few years, the WCC is also the stronger basketball

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 12:39pm

Even considering athletics first the only one that doesn't fit is mens basketbal

Schultz is back

1/24/20 12:58pm

Only gripe I've read about the WCC is mediocre fan support

dtcoug

1/24/20 1:52pm

These gripes are really just about arena size. But outside of a couple of

mannheimadler

1/24/20 4:26pm

They compare what it was from about 2007-2011.

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 4:28pm

Yep, since that's when we left, people only remember the good times.

Mitty

1/24/20 6:51pm

The vast majority of MWC schools draw no better fan support than the WCC schools

Mitty

1/24/20 6:50pm

Typically BYU gets dinged for how long it takes people to graduate. So many RMs

Forzaitalia

1/25/20 10:29am

So how come "academics" seems to be a reason that the P12 doesn't want us?

BlueVU

1/24/20 12:59pm

You know the stock answer. BYU is a great undergrad school, but not a heavy

LiveCoug

1/24/20 1:00pm

So it's not so much the "academics", but the focus of the school on undergrads?

BlueVU

1/24/20 1:04pm

correct

BlueK

1/24/20 1:22pm

I think that grad school knock also hurts even though it is an undergrad rating.

Forzaitalia

1/25/20 10:32am

Who told you that? Anyone honest knows it has nothing to do with academics.

Mitty

1/24/20 6:53pm

IMO, we're fortunate Hair torpedoed our move to the WAC and we found a spot in

ManicBlue

1/24/20 1:27pm

Agreed. The WAC would have been bad.

dtcoug

1/24/20 1:53pm

Absolutely, he did us a huge solid actually if the story as told is true.

Mitty

1/24/20 6:54pm

and he thought he was sinking our plans by ripping the heart out of

ManicBlue

1/24/20 11:39pm

I'd be curious to see the numbers for the MWC

dtcoug

1/24/20 1:55pm

Here they are from my post:

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 2:07pm

Thanks. Not bad schools, but clearly below the WCC rankings.

dtcoug

1/24/20 2:13pm

Yep. The highest ranked Mountain West school is 41 spots below the lowest WCC

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 3:02pm

Rice would probably fit in just fine if they went that far east.

Mitty

1/24/20 6:55pm

The WCC is also a group of faith based schools which I don't believe Rice is so

ManicBlue

1/24/20 11:48pm

Denver, Seattle U. (former member), and Grand Canyon have all openly

Gentleman Stan

1/25/20 1:49am

Thanks

Cougarpride

1/24/20 2:17pm

Interesting. So using this method, who's the best? I'm guessing ACC then Big 10

The Chelsea Dagger

1/24/20 4:07pm

I'd say you're right. Among Top 10 basketball leagues, the ACC, Big 10, then

Gentleman Stan

1/24/20 4:15pm

Surprised Washington at 62 and not higher

YSeattle

1/24/20 4:12pm

Interesting, I was surprised to see them that high.

Mitty

1/24/20 6:56pm

Thank you, you are a scholar and a gentleman, Stan.

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