Emcrit also has been blogging about this.. seems this is more like

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Apr 7, 2020
11:23:42pm

cougfanz Truly Addicted User

Emcrit also has been blogging about this.. seems this is more like

High altitude pulmonary edema rather than ARDS where high pressure ventilation seems to make it worse Also With all the focus on ventilator shortages the discussion hasn’t really addressed that patients on the vent only have a 15% survival rate and that’s including all comers.. I would love to see the data of Vent survival on age.

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More theories and belief that Covid-19 is about O2 starvation and ventilators aren’t the solution

RdF3 All-American

4/7/20 10:34pm

We are being directed to minimize PEEP and O2 administration in these pts

gaspasscoug

4/7/20 10:40pm

Wow. One of the most intriguing articles I've read to date....

777

4/7/20 10:47pm

hydroxychloroquine decreases viral load. That would protect heme

OU Cougar

4/7/20 10:49pm

The virus unleashes a huge Cytokine storm that leads to Pulmonary deterioration

Osteotome

4/7/20 11:05pm

EM:RAP actually did a video podcast about this last week, specifically talking

Game Changer

4/7/20 11:17pm

So O2 and CPAP help but are discouraged but intubation seems to not help?

ArcticKat

4/8/20 12:26am

Emcrit also has been blogging about this.. seems this is more like

cougfanz

4/7/20 11:23pm

So is the hope we just pump the brakes on the vent and we might see a huge

777

4/7/20 11:41pm

No. The vents aren't really killing people, they just aren't helping the way

Game Changer

4/8/20 12:02am

Personally I’m not convinced they’re not contributing to increased mortality

cougfanz

4/8/20 12:04am

Are you ICU? You would definitely know better than I do. The sense I get from

Game Changer

4/8/20 12:13am

Nope. Cardiology. so rusty vent knowledge -

cougfanz

4/8/20 12:20am

Our vent survival rate so far has been much better than that. Small sample size.

dave

4/7/20 11:51pm

Good to hear. Ours is 50-50 with smaller size as well

cougfanz

4/8/20 12:04am

EM:RAP talks about mortality and intubation data here: problem is a ton of people still in the midst of it, so a lot of

4/8/20 12:02am

Good point. Such a slow death with this disease

cougfanz

4/8/20 12:04am

It’s really been crazy tracking some of my COVID admits from the ER. A few of them were like 92% on RA, looked good.

4/8/20 12:12am

Yeah sounds like we’ve had a lot of similar ones... doing relatively fine

cougfanz

4/8/20 12:25am

Are you treating with hydroxycloroquine and zpac,zinc? Willing to try ivermectin

4/8/20 7:19pm

Are you treating with hydroxychloroquine? Zpac? Zinc?

4/8/20 7:17pm

In the ER, no. In the ICU, yes, yes, no, no.

4/8/20 7:25pm

I've seen different numbers

bythenumbers

4/8/20 6:41am

Would Acetazolamide (mountain sickness) help? In combo with hydroxychloroquine?

happyhiker

4/8/20 9:11am

Thanks for posting this. Looks interesting.

ArcticKat

4/8/20 12:22am

So what’s the answer if this is it’s true progression?

pegushin

4/8/20 1:04am

I haven’t looked at the 2nd and 3rd tweet’s content, but the 1st tweet thread is

ldssdl

4/8/20 6:15am

Exactly. Stated as fact when there are huge leaps of logic.

FireCoug231

4/8/20 7:36am

Pretty interesting

Northwest Cougar

4/8/20 7:44am

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