I agree, but his assumption was far too misguided not to shed light on.

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Santos L. Halper

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Success from the field. First Bear hunt in the books. Pics may be offensive.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:19pm

What round took it?

PickleButton

6/15/20 2:20pm

26 Nosler

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:21pm

Never been hunting. Those photos confirm that this isn't something I can do.

doctorcoug

6/15/20 2:23pm

Hunting is not for everyone.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:25pm

There is nothing wrong with that at all. Hunting is not for everyone.

crimedog

6/15/20 2:28pm

Not judging you for doing your thing, but I honestly don't know how I feel about

PGVikingDad

6/15/20 2:25pm

Just curious when you refer to "this"

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:28pm

Some animals are certainly harder to imagine hunting than others, but I find it

PGVikingDad

6/15/20 2:40pm

He’s sharing his experience not asking for your feelings.

Zedhead

6/15/20 3:11pm

Yeesh. Take a deep breath.

crazY

6/15/20 3:14pm

beautiful bear. bear is surprisingly pretty tasty..

crimedog

6/15/20 2:27pm

I had heard bear was not good tasting.

Squeegee

6/16/20 11:58am

Not offensive, but that doesn't sound fun to me at all. Animals are meat, I

Vincent's Picks

6/15/20 2:29pm

How did this bear suffer? He lived in the wild. He was ethically harvested

crimedog

6/15/20 2:33pm

The bear was shot and ran away. I assume he suffered before dying. I'm not

Vincent's Picks

6/15/20 2:37pm

He went 20 yards. Did he suffer? No.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:45pm

You and I disgust Ted Nugent, but we are who we are. I can't do it either.

Belboz

6/15/20 2:56pm

It still lived a better life than any caged or farmed animal

Jericho

6/15/20 3:22pm

Every meat eater should kill and field dress an animal at some point

Jericho

6/15/20 2:59pm

No gracias. I appreciate it enough now. I've hunted but I was unsuccessful.

Vincent's Picks

6/15/20 3:07pm

It’s why I don’t hunt. I’d like to, but I don’t really know how to find/track and don’t know what to do with one if I

NWCoug

6/15/20 3:17pm

Where do you live?

fldnstrm

6/15/20 3:21pm

I’m in South Salt Lake County.

NWCoug

6/15/20 3:33pm

Honestly probably the best game animal to start with would be antelope.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 3:59pm

There are several different ways to field dress - and thanks to youtube there

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 3:41pm

This is exactly me. I've always been good at shooting, and have fly fished forever (and guided) but learning to hunt

mvtoro

6/15/20 5:16pm

Find a friend or family member to go with- just getting out and seeing something

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 7:48pm

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rivercitycoug

6/15/20 2:31pm

Predator hunting is all about population control. Permits are draw only

crimedog

6/15/20 2:32pm

Both, population control and sport.

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 2:40pm

Simply for sport, no. I eat everything I hunt.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:43pm

Sounds like a great time! And he's a beaut! Good job.

IdahoCoug

6/15/20 2:32pm

Nice job man! Would love to do that hunt!

Mathew

6/15/20 2:40pm

Congratulations on the successful hunt!

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 2:41pm

Personally, I'd rather use my camera for shooting

Aircooled

6/15/20 2:48pm

Good luck using your hands on a grizzly.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 2:49pm

Easy take down

Aircooled

6/15/20 3:05pm

Not if mama bear taught him to .....

Q-grr

6/16/20 1:46pm

Use your hands? Have you ever eaten beef? Can you imagine trying to strangle a cow to death in order to provide it?

JohnnyComeLately

6/15/20 2:50pm

That's some serious funny comedy right there

Aircooled

6/15/20 3:06pm

That bear picked the wrong day to look for food. I hope I don’t get shot looking

pink22

6/15/20 2:52pm

Yeah, that would ruin my whole day.

Psalm Trees

6/15/20 3:16pm

A lot of irony in that statement

Sir_Ten

6/15/20 4:08pm

If that bear used a gun, then yes.

pink22

6/15/20 4:09pm

My guess is you think hunting is unfair.

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 4:13pm

It is. But life is unfair.

pink22

6/15/20 4:16pm

Animals don’t use guns, but lots of animals use tools to trap and kill prey

Revolution

6/15/20 4:34pm

Agreed. But that’s only comparable if we built the gun from scratch with things

pink22

6/15/20 4:56pm

How about bows and arrows?

Revolution

6/15/20 5:06pm

Sure if you build your own. I am not against hunting per se, and I eat meat

pink22

6/15/20 5:12pm

You’ve clearly never hunted if you think we have every single advantage...

Wyomingite

6/15/20 7:40pm

Nearly. That’s a distinction I made.

pink22

6/15/20 7:44pm

It’s not that easy, it’s not target practice

CBaass

6/15/20 7:41pm

How much worse is it then that you have somebody else do it for you?

fldnstrm

6/15/20 8:40pm

Clearly you haven't hunted lizards in the deserts of so-cal.

Bert609

6/15/20 5:15pm

We use what we have that is superior, our brains...

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 7:31pm

Men used their brains and intelligence to make guns. Animals use every bit of

southbaycoug

7/5/20 10:28pm

Physiologically humans are crummy hunters

LCcoug

6/15/20 4:36pm

We use our brains

Backcountry

6/15/20 4:41pm

All animals do

pink22

6/15/20 4:54pm

Ours is superior, that’s how we even things out or turn it to our advantage.

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 7:33pm

So then we shouldn’t need a manufactured weapon.

pink22

6/15/20 7:46pm

Surely you can’t be this dense... I know, I know, don’t feed the trolls.

Wyomingite

6/15/20 7:50pm

If you want to discuss we can discuss, if you want to troll then never mind.

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 8:02pm

I agree, hunting is most definitely unfair. But - not the way you think it is.

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 8:07pm

Sounds more like a huge waste of time.

pink22

6/15/20 8:49pm

Nice deflection. It's a lifestyle more than anything else, I put a lot of time

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 8:56pm

This makes me laugh. Not sure fairness should be used in this context.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/16/20 11:47pm

I agree, but his assumption was far too misguided not to shed light on.

Santos L. Halper

6/17/20 7:04am

Agree. Sounds like he’s just trolling.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/17/20 9:21am

Suggest you stay out of Minneapolis area grocery stores

CBaass

6/15/20 7:39pm

Treyvon Martin agrees.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/17/20 9:18am

Having both hunted and worked in a slaughterhouse as a young lad, some of these responses are surprising.

antiyewt

6/15/20 2:52pm

Don’t let the name fool you, it’s more of a grate than a floor.

kcca

6/15/20 3:37pm

Ever heard of a blood pit?

antiyewt

6/16/20 1:22pm

Nice. That's something I have never done that I would like to.

Jericho

6/15/20 2:57pm

Well done!

Zedhead

6/15/20 3:00pm

Awesome!

Jimmerfan32

6/15/20 3:03pm

Congrats. That's an awesome memory.

Backcountry

6/15/20 3:05pm

I 100% support hunting but I don't know that I could do it myself.

chazen

6/15/20 3:09pm

Nice! I'd ignore the Nancy's who commented negatively

JONBOY

6/15/20 3:20pm

Most haven't been negative, just that its not for them and that's fine.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 3:57pm

What’s funny is most wouldn’t bat an eye at a large trophy bass, most if not all

JONBOY

6/15/20 4:55pm

Congrats on the gorgeous color phase bear! This is the best thing I've seen on

Santos L. Halper

6/15/20 3:21pm

Given shot range it was a decent size probably about 2-2.5".

fldnstrm

6/15/20 3:52pm

Harvesting an animal elicits some very unique emotions.

Backcountry

6/15/20 3:29pm

My thoughts also.

Wyomingite

6/15/20 3:41pm

Bittersweet is a good way to say it

Backcountry

6/15/20 3:45pm

It can be tough to explain to someone who hasn’t done it.

Wyomingite

6/15/20 3:53pm

Maybe the most bizarre thing I’ve ever read.

pink22

6/15/20 4:18pm

Break it down for me. What didnt make sense. Genuinely curious.

Backcountry

6/15/20 4:41pm

Spiritual. Let’s start there.

pink22

6/15/20 4:56pm

Like I said, without experiencing it, its impossible to relate to it.

Backcountry

6/15/20 5:13pm

You’re confusing excitement and relief with a spiritual experience.

pink22

6/15/20 5:17pm

I tried to be reasonable and yet you choose to be a jerk. No, Im not confusing

Backcountry

6/15/20 5:19pm

You'd be surprised, he used slaying and dressing of animals as spiritual experiences

Bert609

6/15/20 5:21pm

Its not a coincidence that so many prophets had their spiritual experiences in

Backcountry

6/15/20 5:23pm

Wasn't John the Beloved a Dry Fly Fiserman?

crimedog

6/15/20 7:58pm

Wait are you saying you know what causes other to feel the spirit?? That’s

crimedog

6/15/20 5:21pm

Just thinking killing isn’t on the list. I could be wrong though.

pink22

6/15/20 8:26pm

No you specifically said it wasn’t.

crimedog

6/15/20 8:39pm

Ok so you’re saying killing something brings the spirit? Is that really your

pink22

6/15/20 8:52pm

Ever heard of the Old Testament? Ever heard of animal sacrifice?

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 8:56pm

Ummm....If you’re comparing hunting and eating an animal to sacrificing an

pink22

6/15/20 9:20pm

But that isn’t what you asked now is it?

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 9:25pm

Ever heard of native Americans?

CoachSpeak

6/15/20 9:36pm

Wait now we are going from hunting to killing humans???

crimedog

6/15/20 9:09pm

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crimedog

6/15/20 9:11pm

Where’s the line? Do you just kill dogs? Deer? Humans? Trees? Where’s the

pink22

6/15/20 9:17pm

Are you so ignorant That you have not read Any post on here? Including mine

crimedog

6/15/20 9:25pm

Have I told anyone here how to feel? I’m legitimately asking questions of how

pink22

6/15/20 9:36pm

Backpedaling like that, you oughta be in the NFL.

Wyomingite

6/15/20 9:45pm

So what's the guy killing your beef supposed to feel when Jesus stands next to

fldnstrm

6/15/20 9:47pm

Wow hypocrisy at its finest

crimedog

6/15/20 9:50pm

Part of being a good steward of the planet is managing their numbers to keep the herd strong.

John Doe

6/15/20 10:02pm

I feel more peace when Im in the wilderbess than anywhere else.

Backcountry

6/16/20 4:21am

Being in the wilderness is peaceful but killing something is the opposite

pink22

6/16/20 7:43am

Again you are still telling us what is and isn’t

crimedog

6/16/20 7:47am

Killing is peaceful. Got it.

pink22

6/16/20 8:36am

Nobody on this thread ever said killing an animal was peaceful. That was you.

fldnstrm

6/16/20 8:44am

Have we told you how you should feel? Have we told you when you can or can't

crimedog

6/16/20 8:57am

I’m more posing a question. Killing = peace. Seems like quite the enigma if

pink22

6/16/20 9:20am

The problem is you're focusing on only one aspect of hunting...

CoachSpeak

6/16/20 10:08am

Again, and with all due respect, your opinion is ignorant. You cant even fairly

Backcountry

6/16/20 8:34am

For most it's what the law allows.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 9:27pm

Hunters are REAL conservationists

Jericho

6/15/20 5:20pm

Yep. Nobody loves those animals more than me and my hunting buddies.

Backcountry

6/15/20 5:21pm

Are we at the point where we dont even try to understand a different opinion?

cheezedawg

6/15/20 4:47pm

I tried. It doesn’t make sense.

pink22

6/15/20 4:58pm

Reading through your posts in this thread, I don't think you tried very hard

volleyjiver

6/15/20 7:39pm

I think you’re the only one here. So who doesn’t make sense?

Wyomingite

6/15/20 7:45pm

Not really. A true hunter respects his pray. Offers thanks and hates to

crimedog

6/15/20 4:53pm

Awesome. Beautiful bear you got there

YIsForBrigham

6/15/20 4:00pm

just make sure the taxidermist poses it correctly...like this:

Cougarclaw

6/15/20 4:06pm

Piece by piece

Backcountry

6/15/20 4:11pm

Plan is a rug and skull. Moving it should be a breeze.

fldnstrm

6/15/20 4:11pm

I love that far side comic.

crimedog

6/15/20 4:37pm

Congrats! On my bucket list

tander123

6/15/20 5:04pm

Congrats on the successful hunt. Beautiful bear.

Orem58thBall

6/15/20 8:03pm

I’ve learned a lot from this thread. Very educational.

Memmo

6/16/20 8:16am

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