Not really. Who knows if the receiver catches it and gets the conversion anyway?

Oct 20, 2020
3:15:19pm

Harbinger Intervention Needed

The point of a turnover is to get possession of the ball. After that play we had possession regardless and it wouldn't change field position.

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Not to be nitpicky. 3 INTS and 1 Fumble Recovery in 5 games seems very low

SlantRoute

10/20/20 12:21pm

There's a sizeable random component to turnovers.

Indy Coug

10/20/20 12:22pm

I wouldn't mind it one bit if most of our random turnover luck happens

BoiseBlue

10/20/20 12:24pm

And refs actually awarding the turnovers that happen

BigYfan

10/20/20 12:32pm

True, but two years in a row seems like mote than chance.

antiyewt

10/20/20 2:10pm

BYU was 13th in interceptions last year, despite being almost dead last in sacks.

Indy Coug

10/20/20 2:55pm

How many of those were by linebackers?

antiyewt

10/20/20 3:37pm

With a surname starting w "W".

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 4:09pm

Waufusi or Wili?

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:48pm

Turnovers are much more prevalent in plays that come with pressure (either by a blindside sack, or rushed, errand throw

crm48

10/20/20 4:08pm

Eh. A lot of turnover rate is luck.

dezzy

10/20/20 12:22pm

If we keep getting pressure, we’ll get more turnovers

Coop

10/20/20 12:23pm

If we play tighter defense in the secondary, then that pressure will certainly

here's to hoping

10/20/20 4:24pm

Amazing when you see that stat and realize that we still

CougarCanuck76

10/20/20 12:23pm

Yep. Not a complaint. Just an observation. Our defensive numbers are great.

SlantRoute

10/20/20 12:24pm

You point out a valid weakness in this defense. Our offense was just that

CougarCanuck76

10/20/20 12:32pm

3 Near interceptions that change the game last week:

BYUcrew818

10/20/20 12:30pm

We are really conservative in a lot of areas.Part of bend and not break is about

Ssebo

10/20/20 12:24pm

They'll surpass last season's sack total on Saturday though. That is nice.

byubyu

10/20/20 12:29pm

I hate that our int's are always in terrible field position or, like last week

Harbinger

10/20/20 12:35pm

That 2 point INT was important though. Tune was very conservative from then on..

Rat

10/20/20 12:57pm

Interception on 2pt attempt worthless? It literally took 2 pts off the board for

DanSmith...BYU

10/20/20 3:12pm

Not really. Who knows if the receiver catches it and gets the conversion anyway?

Harbinger

10/20/20 3:15pm

Isn't the point of defense to prevent the other team from scoring which is

therealpaulhollywood

10/20/20 6:03pm

Watch that play again...if Udo doesn't make that catch, Houston's WR does.

DanSmith...BYU

10/20/20 6:07pm

You could argue that play is what turned the tide. It was the start of the comeback.

SpiffCoug

10/20/20 4:34pm

We’ve caused fumbles, but they generally haven’t bounced our way yet. Hard to

Corn Pop

10/20/20 12:38pm

A lot of three and outs the first three games

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 12:59pm

True. It’s really a good thing we aren’t sackless though...

niqmadu

10/20/20 1:13pm

3 INTs? Warner 2, Tooley 1, Udo 1 = 4.

byubrian

10/20/20 1:24pm

INTs on 2-pt conversions aren’t counted in the stat book as an INT.

SlantRoute

10/20/20 1:36pm

Unfortunately Udo's not-quite-a-sack led to his not-quite-an-interception.

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 2:41pm

Just bad technique. Got too high and lost his power

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 2:53pm

Even the great KVN has a few whiffs similar to this Udo’s. I too hope he

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 3:01pm

He’ll get better.

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 3:05pm

Except for the first half of next game.

antiyewt

10/20/20 3:39pm

Wait. Udo got kicked out for targeting too?

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 4:19pm

That was Harper

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:50pm

I assume he's gotta be tearin it up in practice for the coaches to trust him as

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 3:43pm

No doubt

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:51pm

His first noticeable play of the game looked really amateurish

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 6:38pm

The defensive philosophy is to be passive. That does not lead to TO's.

Ash

10/20/20 2:03pm

I can see where you're coming from... Turnovers are great, but...

canndyman

10/20/20 2:28pm

That is nitpicky, but also true.

Ham

10/20/20 2:29pm

Remember when BYU forced 6 turnovers in one game against Utah and still lost?

br1125

10/20/20 2:31pm

Kalani said in Monday press meeting it's 1 of his top D shortcomings to work on.

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 2:36pm

That’s fair. I guess if the team and defense are doing well overall the

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 2:38pm

We probably had 3 near-INTs this week that just missed our guys' hands. What I

TailgateU

10/20/20 3:37pm

I agree.

Boring

10/20/20 4:02pm

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