Independence in a “normal” year is .500 give or take 1-2 wins above

Nov 24, 2020
8:51:57pm

cougfanz All-American

It’s a big stretch imo to see BYU’s record over the last decade as an independent and then think that a perfect or near perfect record will ever be realistic - even with this team

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Up until today I believed that Independence was a viable path. No longer.

Hinta

11/24/20 8:44pm

While that may be up for some debate, our indy schedule wasn't the issue this

westsidecoug

11/24/20 8:45pm

If byu played its original schedule and went 11-1 they would play

cougarfann888

11/24/20 8:46pm

I don’t believe you

zsmooth

11/24/20 8:47pm

Nope. The bias against BYU is real

Squirt

11/24/20 8:48pm

I don't know. Would they have any top 25 wins? MSU isn't great, Minn is bad, ASU

cougaman

11/24/20 8:50pm

Yet those are the teams that top 10 programs win games against

DMVCougar

11/25/20 1:28am

Still don’t think they would let 2 non-P5 teams in we would still be left out

Cougar Geek

11/24/20 8:50pm

How can you still think this? What more proof do you need? We have no friends,

Junior Deputy

11/24/20 8:59pm

Agree with this - having friends/allies/conf going to bat matters.

BYUfan92

11/24/20 10:30pm

Prob not

Mitty

11/25/20 2:10pm

I'm right there with you. Someone talk me off this ledge.

IceCreamButt

11/24/20 8:46pm

Just think of Hair. There, better?

Magathisll

11/24/20 8:47pm

I was thinking American, is their president a cartoony villain as well?

IceCreamButt

11/24/20 8:48pm

Not sure, but I still think Indy is better.

Magathisll

11/24/20 8:53pm

Nothing outside of P5 is viable. P5>Indy>G5

bluescholar

11/24/20 8:46pm

Signed Cincy at #7.

zerigke

11/24/20 8:47pm

The G5 sympathy ticket doesn’t apply to BYU and you know it

ldssdl

11/24/20 8:48pm

That's because they already get an auto-bid, so it couldn't matter less what

bluescholar

11/24/20 8:49pm

Thats the whole point. Auto bid.

zerigke

11/24/20 8:54pm

Who gives a crap about the auto-bid? Let's join a G5 so we can get an auto-bid

bluescholar

11/24/20 8:58pm

And play a schedule like this year’s every year? No thanks.

valcorger

11/24/20 8:59pm

Not true..American is the best G5. Take Boise and SDSU and

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/25/20 12:17am

Even if G5 meant only meant NY6 every 20 yrs, bowls would be better

reddead

11/24/20 11:41pm

It doesn't need to be every 20 years for BYU

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/25/20 12:15am

You’re right, they have an AUTO BID to the only thing that anyone outside the P5

Junior Deputy

11/24/20 9:01pm

Cool, let's play a crap schedule every year, so we can get an auto-bid once

bluescholar

11/24/20 9:18pm

This is going to blow your mind, but the average Indy schedule we’ve played isnt

Junior Deputy

11/24/20 9:23pm

Sos in college football is maybe the worst, most misleading metric in existence.

bluescholar

11/24/20 9:24pm

Ah yes, so now it’s the metric that’s flawed... definitely not your narrative.

Junior Deputy

11/24/20 9:26pm

Check my posting history. I have always bagged on sos, it's a joke of a metric.

bluescholar

11/24/20 9:46pm

You're simply wrong and a poor armchair coach

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:25pm

The CFB world has completely transformed in the last ten years, especially

bluescholar

11/24/20 10:29pm

Well you better hope for a pandemic every year then because it's the only reason Cincy is there.

Grit for Brains

11/24/20 9:02pm

Eventually people will come around, I hope. But man, CB has been stubborn on

777

11/24/20 9:14pm

CFB has changed. Downgrading to a G5 would be a death sentence for BYU.

bluescholar

11/24/20 9:23pm

We just played the worst schedule in school history and the excitement has never

777

11/24/20 9:26pm

You act as if being in the MWC was holding us back... why?

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:32pm

And Boise State and UCF and UNI ....we are getting passed

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/25/20 12:14am

And that’s why Holmoe schedules so many P5s every year

ldssdl

11/24/20 8:48pm

The OP suggests BYU's 2020 schedule is the norm.

Belboz

11/24/20 8:49pm

Independence is great in a normal year. If we were undefeated right now with our

brazilcoug

11/24/20 8:46pm

Our week schedule was created by those who profit from it. P5 teams abandon us

Archaea

11/24/20 8:49pm

Independence in a “normal” year is .500 give or take 1-2 wins above

cougfanz

11/24/20 8:51pm

If we were in the MWC, we are aren't even in the conversation

The Chief

11/24/20 8:47pm

And would only have played 2 or 3 games so far.

valcorger

11/24/20 8:48pm

Yep, think how much fun we have had watching these games thanks to Indy

The Chief

11/24/20 8:50pm

BYU's schedule was ruined in 2020

Belboz

11/24/20 8:48pm

G5 imo- can get to a ny6 which is the ceiling for the program

cougfanz

11/24/20 8:48pm

AAC

JohnnyC

11/24/20 8:48pm

This, force the P5s to recognize a major power outside their club.

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:27pm

Only path is joining with ND... and that is a major long shot.

Samurai Jack

11/24/20 10:45pm

AAC or ACC?

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/25/20 12:22am

Like others have said, independence had nothing to do with our schedule this

Nuke

11/24/20 8:49pm

But that still would leave us out of the CFP. It might not even get us to a NY6.

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:28pm

Independence is fine, just not this year.

Coach's Dad

11/24/20 8:49pm

I'd rather play 4-6 P5 every year and prove we are in their class

SayMyName

11/24/20 8:50pm

6-8 is still the goal

LiveCoug

11/24/20 8:52pm

AAC football only and all other sports in the WCC we’d have a chance at a G5NY6

franklyvulgar

11/24/20 8:53pm

AAC baby. NY6 is our program's ceiling anyways. Get the G5 autobid.

_Dakoko

11/24/20 8:54pm

Lame. Aim for a championship. At least deserve it, even if you're denied.

AZcougLawyer

11/24/20 8:58pm

BYU has no possible shot to compete for an NC

WP17

11/24/20 9:02pm

You could still shoot for it but an undefeated AAC is much more realistic than

franklyvulgar

11/24/20 9:03pm

While we’re dreaming, why not aim for a Super Bowl?

Junior Deputy

11/24/20 9:24pm

Your logic hurts. We're suppose to claim NCs like the team up north?

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:23pm

No. Play the best teams. Beat them. Objectively deserve to be in the playoff

AZcougLawyer

11/24/20 11:58pm

That will not happen on a consistent basis. Even elite P5 teams struggle

Iki_Balam

11/25/20 12:00am

We’re screwed either way I guess.

sgriff

11/24/20 8:55pm

Either we embrace Indy and forget about NY6/CFP or game the system like BSU

Iki_Balam

11/24/20 10:21pm

This is 100 percent the wrong takeaway.

All-American

11/24/20 9:13pm

This is 100 percent the right takeaway

UMWolverine

11/24/20 9:24pm

This is covid's fault, not independence's fault.

Heath Squashwell

11/24/20 11:14pm

Wow... I don’t understand this at all.

byu_coug

11/24/20 11:26pm

AAC 100%

Baseball77

11/24/20 11:50pm

The fix seems to have been in. C19 has cost P5's as half a $B in gate...

LEDSFW

11/25/20 12:10am

Confused why you thought committee was honorable

Mitty

11/25/20 2:09pm

You think NY6 payouts sans fans will total $50M?

BYU'01

11/25/20 5:07pm

Who knows. Maybe just start a new playoff with the G5 and indys?

Mitty

11/25/20 2:10pm

This idea might have merit.

Orem58thBall

11/25/20 4:11pm

Nothing to lose. We're not getting in the club as things stand now.

Mitty

11/25/20 8:15pm

If that happens, hopefully BYU is as far away from that as possible

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