They are absolutely benefiting financially, just because they are free to the

May 16, 2021
1:36:22pm

gilmerbuckeye Contributor

Public doesn’t mean they are free. The government is footing the Bill and pharmaceutical companies are making plenty of profit.

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COVID vaccinations vs. other childhood vaccines

ReyOso

5/16/21 8:36am

Anyone claiming they won't vaccinate their kids because of the dangers of rare side effects or that COVID isn't "that"

SpiffCoug

5/16/21 8:39am

Vaccine companies are not liable for their COVID vaccines. This is an emergency

Blue Ghost

5/16/21 9:01am

For all those thumbs downers, if it's so safe why not announce full liability?

Blue Ghost

5/16/21 10:15am

Well for one thing....

RICoug

5/16/21 1:17pm

They are absolutely benefiting financially, just because they are free to the

gilmerbuckeye

5/16/21 1:36pm

Well Pfizer is up 15% v S&P 43% last 12 mo.

RICoug

5/16/21 5:18pm

They'd be not getting the type of sales normally either way without Covid

byukarl

6/6/21 8:56am

You say they're making a killing, stock price says otherwise

RICoug

6/9/21 12:47am

Not enough data to support that claim either way.

sparky

5/16/21 9:30am

Also, what about kids who’ve already had it? Vaccination has never been

sparky

5/16/21 9:32am

So, this is a case where your kid had a cold & you assumed it was Covid, right?

Linescratcher

6/6/21 9:08am

But what if you plan a trip to Maui?

Belboz

6/6/21 10:48am

RE: But what if you plan a trip to Maui?

TheWanderer

6/6/21 10:23pm

Bull. There's no data whatsoever regarding longterm risks to children from the

Kerbouchard

5/16/21 10:13am

There's no long term data for anything regarding covid-19.

Powerbait DPM

5/16/21 10:40am

That’s totally crap. The risk of death from COVID to a kid does not justify the risk of vaccination. There is no need

Blue2thebone

5/16/21 10:33am

What risk of vaccination? What does that even mean?

ReyOso

5/16/21 10:43am

You don’t seem to be a rational person so I won’t even play your game. I am rational though my family has had all

Blue2thebone

5/16/21 11:10am

Did you read the original post? 300 kids have died from COVID.

ReyOso

5/16/21 11:13am

Someone who says what risk of vaccine is the definition of someone who isn’t rational

Blue2thebone

5/16/21 3:45pm

I don’t know why some people pick positions and bury their heads in the sand.

Blue2thebone

5/16/21 4:00pm

RE: What risk of vaccination? What does that even mean?

Blue2thebone

5/23/21 8:23am

I will let big pharma test their vaccine on children who have parents that

ARCoug

5/16/21 11:10am

My daughter had both the chickenpox vaccination and the pertussis vaccination..

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

5/16/21 8:42am

Don’t lots of people who had chickenpox get the shingles vaccine?

The Count

5/16/21 8:48am

I think you have to be 50 or older to get that vaccination, right?

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

5/16/21 8:49am

Also, found this on pertussis:

The Count

5/16/21 8:50am

I've worked at my current school for 8 years...we have had one case of Pertussis

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

5/16/21 8:55am

You need to be 60 or over to get Shingrix, the shingles vaccine

Greg4BYU

5/16/21 9:06am

I got chickenpox twice as a kid and have already had shingles once. I was an

RootieBoy

5/16/21 8:55am

There hasn’t been enough time to know the long term effects of

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 8:52am

How long is long enough?

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 8:59am

Is 5 months long enough?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 9:03am

There have been hundreds of thousands who got the vaccine before that

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 9:07am

Are you willing to take responsibility for anything that goes wrong?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 9:14am

Wrong on the government claim. How long is long enough?

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 9:19am

12.5 years? Are you willing to take responsibility?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 9:31am

Wait let’s see if I can do a “patriot”

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 9:38am

So 29 compensated out of 701 claims.

CougarThug

5/16/21 10:22am

RE: COVID vaccinations vs. other childhood vaccines

garyfan

5/16/21 8:55am

The vaccines have been out for less than a year. Are there long term effects?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 9:03am

You're afraid of long haul vax side effects but not long haul COVID?

ReyOso

5/16/21 9:17am

I'm actually afraid of both. Why would you say I'm not?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 9:33am

It’s not even equivalent. One is the long term continuation of actual symptoms

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 9:43am

Were people worried about thalidomide after 5 months is availability?

CougarThug

5/16/21 10:26am

This is a vaccine, not a drug. We've been vaccinating for generations.

ReyOso

5/16/21 10:40am

And we have been using drugs for how long?

CougarThug

5/16/21 11:32am

The comparison isn't the same thing at all.

ReyOso

5/16/21 11:57am

Thalidomide was never approved in the united states

chemcoug

6/6/21 9:16pm

mRNA is actually not a vaccine from my understanding.

bigbossbyu

5/16/21 4:13pm

It’s not brand new. It’s been developed over decades...

WP17

5/16/21 9:57am

When was it first used on humans?

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 10:08am

You realize we have a pretty good idea of how things react with cells?

WP17

5/16/21 10:16am

It’s not anymore lazy than definitively saying after 5 months that it’s

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 12:57pm

RE: It’s not anymore lazy than definitively saying after 5 months that

Charles Darwin

5/16/21 12:59pm

Any number would be arbitrary. It will depend on how prevalent covid is in a

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 6:36pm

Except that you suggesting that means you don't understand vaccines...

WP17

5/16/21 1:26pm

Vaccines are very complicated and 99% don’t understand the complexity of them

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 6:34pm

RE: Vaccines are very complicated and 99% don’t understand the complexity

memento

5/16/21 6:51pm

Which part was nuts to you?

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 8:09pm

Your entire stance.

memento

5/16/21 8:11pm

I’m guessing you don’t surround yourself with people

D.T. Survivor

5/16/21 8:35pm

I don't surround myself with people with crazy views on vaccines, that's true

memento

5/17/21 8:28am

“A vaccine that was rushed...” 🙄

WP17

5/16/21 7:26pm

Just 5 days ago we had scientists say they don't know if vaccine prevents spread

ochobeeguy

5/16/21 1:43pm

This risk aversion is absurd though. we don’t know everything about anything

WP17

5/16/21 2:12pm

Didn’t all those yankee guys get covid that were vaccinated? And have to miss

bigbossbyu

5/16/21 4:14pm

Did any of them have actual symptoms or side effects?

WP17

5/16/21 7:27pm

I could go either way. Probably won’t unless it ever gets required

cougfanz

5/16/21 9:08am

Have you had covid?

WP17

5/16/21 10:05am

Yep. Kids too. I’m vaccinated as well.

cougfanz

5/16/21 12:45pm

Initial response was whether to vaccinate kids

cougfanz

5/16/21 12:47pm

Statistical reasoning is hard for a lot of people

valleus

5/16/21 9:56am

RE: COVID vaccinations vs. other childhood vaccines

kbufcoug

5/16/21 1:09pm

RE: COVID vaccinations vs. other childhood vaccines

ReyOso

5/16/21 1:17pm

I’m pro vaccine

Roscoe Mendenhall

5/16/21 2:42pm

Anyone vaccinated try the magnet or stud finder thing?

bigbossbyu

5/16/21 4:11pm

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