Pretty crazy, considering they are the 40th largest TV market, pretty much the

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May 18, 2021
11:52:32am

BerkeleyCoug All-American

Pretty crazy, considering they are the 40th largest TV market, pretty much the

same size as Grand Rapids, Michigan and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

Consider Orlando and Sacramento are about twice as large and only have NBA teams. Markets that have at least 250,000 more "TV homes" than Vegas and don't have an NBA team: Tampa (but Orlando is 90 minutes away), Seattle, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Baltimore (90 minutes to both DC and Philly), Raleigh, Nashville, and San Diego (less than 90 minutes to LA).

Vegas is still larger than New Orleans and Memphis by a substantial amount, and slightly larger than OKC.

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NBA adding Vegas and Seattle?

immacougar

5/18/21 11:26am

Which two teams would go over to the East?

RH84025

5/18/21 11:27am

One team. and if I had to guess it would be New Orleans, maybe Memphis.

Conan

5/18/21 11:29am

Just one would have to move

BigTex

5/18/21 11:30am

The nuggets volunteer as tributes.

cougfanblue

5/18/21 11:33am

I was thinking the Timberwolves since they're closer to eastern conference teams

MrTootles

5/18/21 11:42am

Makes sense to have them in a kind of central mid-west north division.

Mitty

5/18/21 1:08pm

Mem and NO are both farther East than Minn. Go along with MIA, ORL, ATL, CLT.

BYUHgrad

5/18/21 3:05pm

Needs to be a good team, so not Minnesota...I’d say Memphis

PHXSUNS31

5/18/21 12:08pm

Min probably makes the most sense geographically, but could be Mem or NO.

Mitty

5/18/21 1:07pm

Get rid of conferences and just have the top 16 make the playoffs. Do divisions

cougaman

5/18/21 3:38pm

Vegas makes sense. Seattle already had its chance.

DieHarder

5/18/21 11:27am

Seattle may also risk burning the team or the arena during the next freak out

Ojiisan

5/18/21 11:29am

Or Santa Fe. Can you imagine a team in NM? That would be AWESOME

Marc Spector

5/18/21 11:34am

A second Oklahoma City team could be good.

TCuz

5/18/21 11:30am

Agree. Forget seattle. I think vegas would be great

cougfanz

5/18/21 11:33am

Wow, I did a double take on your post, as I thought Vegas would be too small,

5/18/21 1:27pm

Sonics got royally screwed by David Stern and Clay Bennett. Kind of screwed

Gibbcoug

5/18/21 12:51pm

Worst Post of all Time.

buckeyecougarguy

5/18/21 4:09pm

Vegas franchise would hurt the Jazz. St George would become Vegas fans.

5/18/21 11:28am

Doubtful.

LiveCoug

5/18/21 11:33am

In 20 years they will all cheer for Vegas. It’s a proximity thing

5/18/21 11:34am

Again, doubtful. Some, sure, but the current base of Jazz fans aren't going to

LiveCoug

5/18/21 11:35am

But your grandkids might

5/18/21 11:44am

Those that identify as Utahns: Jazz. Those seeking Southwestern lifestyle: Vegas

Zooropa

5/18/21 11:39am

So would all of the Californians moving in still blindly root for the Lakers?

Pangare

5/18/21 1:56pm

a real rivalry would help the Jazz

TomPetty

5/18/21 11:37am

I visit both cities a lot and I am surprised how little St.G identifies with LV

Jay Kay

5/18/21 12:06pm

Doubt it since many in St. George have northern Utah ties. They are transplants

BlooCoog

5/18/21 3:24pm

Nah...OKC owners had every intention of moving the team to OKC as leaked emails

BlooCoog

5/18/21 10:20pm

In that scenario which team moves to the East? New Orleans or Memphis?

BigTex

5/18/21 11:29am

Memphis or Minnesota makes the most sense

Remigius

5/18/21 11:31am

Didn't think of Minnesota, but that might be the most logical

BigTex

5/18/21 11:32am

I agree they make the most sense

Remigius

5/18/21 11:35am

They need to send a playoff team East and add 2 expansions to West to rebalance

ochobeeguy

5/18/21 12:07pm

!!BRING BACK THE SONICS!!

lightmann

5/18/21 11:32am

I wish.

5/18/21 1:31pm

No city should ever get a second NBA team. Tacoma should get a team before Seattle does.

Blue2thebone

5/18/21 2:08pm

Tacoma is the same market as Seattle

LiveCoug

5/18/21 2:16pm

Seattle was robbed of the Sonics. They never should have left to begin with. The Sonics had great fan support.

lightmann

5/18/21 3:20pm

Did the new owners want to move to OKC yes, did Washington fail to provide public funding for a new venue which would

Blue2thebone

5/18/21 8:28pm

So pretty soon Vegas will have NBA and MLB teams to go along with the Raiders.

5/18/21 11:34am

And the Golden Knights.

neboutefan

5/18/21 11:35am

Right, and will probably be the most popular of the four teams for the next several years.

5/18/21 11:38am

Fastest city to go from no major franchises to all 4 leagues

BigTex

5/18/21 11:36am

Which certainly lessens SLCs chances of getting another pro team. Bummer

LiveCoug

5/18/21 11:36am

Vegas going from 0 sports franchises to 4, meanwhile in Utah

BigTex

5/18/21 11:38am

Utah has enough with the Jazz and RSL. Baseball, nah. Football, not happening.

Benfica1

5/18/21 11:43am

Have enough? LOL. Wasatch front growth will trigger more opportunities for

LiveCoug

5/18/21 11:45am

Yeah. The Wasatch front also has BYU and uu sports. Maybe a future pro LAX team.

Benfica1

5/18/21 11:49am

I don’t know how SLC doesn’t have a NHL team. Seems so logical... even more than

kotacoug

5/18/21 11:52am

As someone from outside Utah, I wholeheartedly agree: SLC has

5/18/21 11:55am

Utah has a professional Rugby team as well — the Utah Warriors.

Benfica1

5/18/21 3:45pm

Pretty crazy, considering they are the 40th largest TV market, pretty much the

5/18/21 11:52am

Called it

BlueVU

5/18/21 11:39am

Wow. Tough call. Really went out on a limb there.

TCuz

5/18/21 11:45am

I think calling it LITERALLY the day before is pretty good.

BlueVU

5/18/21 11:47am

People have been making the Seattle /Vegas call for years

5/18/21 11:48am

No, but he did it yesterday. A real Nostradamus.

TCuz

5/18/21 11:49am

RE: No, but he did it yesterday. A real Nostradamus.

BlueVU

5/18/21 11:50am

Mark Cuban was on a popular podcast talking about this very scenario.

Richard McCoy Jr.

5/18/21 12:50pm

Changing topics and hijacking the thread... PAC12 should really look at adding

kotacoug

5/18/21 11:50am

I feel like it would take a while to have a net positive effect on revenue

Northwest Cougar

5/18/21 12:09pm

It’s an immediate positive effect on revenue because there are 10 digit expansion fees

TCuz

5/18/21 12:12pm

Holy cow. Who pays for that?

Northwest Cougar

5/18/21 1:53pm

The new ownership group of the expansion team. They buy in, they don’t just get a team for free

TCuz

5/18/21 1:55pm

Oakland A's now looking at Vegas too

Samuel Hall Society

5/18/21 12:11pm

Go ahead and expand, but do it because it's the right long-term move.

OPINIONS

5/18/21 12:12pm

Why the Seattle hate? People are upset that Seattle did not give Howard…

Richard McCoy Jr.

5/18/21 1:00pm

They did the right thing...AND dared to challenge David Stern. The only thing

Zooropa

5/18/21 1:14pm

That would be a fun division - Utah, Denver, Vegas, Portland and Seattle

nephicoug

5/18/21 1:15pm

They’d probably abandon divisions or go to two 8 team divisions

PHXSUNS31

5/18/21 1:55pm

This way the product can be even more diluted with subpar teams paying max

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

5/18/21 7:49pm

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