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Jun 21, 2021
8:01:00pm

Z-Ute 3rd String

Good discussion for sure

Well, Arizona, USC, ASSu, WSU, are a wash.

So, what's left for BYU (how I would rank them):
Utah (Oregon) both #2 in the division
BSU (Furd #3 north)
UVA (UCLA #4)
Baylor (SDSU)
USF (CU #5)
USU (BYU)
Georgia So. (OSU, poor OSU)
ISU (WEB)

So, what's left for Utah (how I would rank them):
Oregon
Furd
UCLA
CU (beat SDSU as well and name pops up more)
SDSU (shows up a lot more on the list than BYU)
BYU (assuming losing more than CU/SDSU)
OSU (poor OSU)
WEB

A QB rating would help a lot.

That's hard, real question is where does Furd, UCLA, SDSU, CU fall? Game comparisons are pretty close. I know this will ruffle BYU fathers but I don't think the other teams lost what BYU did in production but could be wrong.

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What does Phil Know?

Z-Ute

6/21/21 4:34pm

RE: What does Phil Know?

BYUheaven

6/21/21 4:36pm

RE: What does Phil Know?

imdocrob

6/21/21 6:14pm

🙄utah sucks

6/21/21 4:37pm

Woah! Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson might just be good this year.

slappy

6/21/21 4:39pm

Hey Yewts,

Ungoy

6/21/21 4:40pm

Utah returns everybody. If they had any competence at QB position, they'd be

rcbyufan

6/21/21 4:43pm

I am curious to see how he lists QBs?

Z-Ute

6/21/21 5:17pm

Utahs QB will be the strength of the O this year. He is legit unfortunately.

6/21/21 9:42pm

RE: Utahs QB will be the strength of the O this year. He is legit

rcbyufan

6/21/21 10:11pm

You apparently don’t know who the HC has been sinve 2005

6/22/21 2:34am

Top 35 for WR and top 5 for OL? Not a chance. I suppose the rest could

neboutefan

6/21/21 4:44pm

Curious what the date on this is? Pre loss of Thompson and Samson?

BYUFootballisBack

6/21/21 4:46pm

Most likely, can't imagine it was after those two transfers.

neboutefan

6/21/21 4:47pm

The WRs they've brought in are arguably better than those 2 who left.

Scratch

6/21/21 4:53pm

Theo Howard has almost as many yards and Samson and BT combined.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 5:27pm

About an hour ago. LOL. I don't know when Phil crunched his numbers?

Z-Ute

6/21/21 4:55pm

I admit, #5 is very surprising

Z-Ute

6/21/21 5:10pm

Steele’s rankings historically give a lot of credit for returning starters. The

wcj99

6/21/21 5:27pm

The curious part is that it's a younger Oline

Z-Ute

6/21/21 5:30pm

They appear young if you look at what class they are, but remember that every

wcj99

6/21/21 5:59pm

Sure, but only 5 games last season.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 6:02pm

I'm having a hard time with the #5 OL too

DryFlyUte

6/21/21 6:24pm

I'm fine with people sleeping.

6/21/21 4:44pm

Just like 2019, the pieces are there for Utah but it all comes down to QB play and quality of opponents

TFL

6/21/21 5:07pm

Steele always gives the Utes more credit than other National pundits

Medute

6/21/21 5:08pm

I feel like this was written 2 years ago.

Bluedarts

6/21/21 5:13pm

That looks like a bloodbath and all of last years momentum will disappear

BYU Fan

6/21/21 5:17pm

I'm very confident that Utah is taking a couple steps forward, question is

Z-Ute

6/21/21 5:46pm

Gotta put BYU and Utah in similar realm as far as QB goes, neither team really

BYUFootballisBack

6/21/21 5:56pm

Yeah, but not knowing is an improvement for Utah and a decrease for BYU

krindorr

6/21/21 6:26pm

Similar in not knowing the starter yet

Z-Ute

6/21/21 6:56pm

I think we should take your opinion along with everybody else with a grain of

6/21/21 7:05pm

I agree completely.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 7:11pm

Steele prizes returning players and essentially says teams will be good if they have experience.

6/21/21 5:41pm

This. He talks about it constantly. I wonder if he is factoring in that Utah

cowbellcoug

6/21/21 8:03pm

Utah will not have the No. 5 O-Line in the nation. That's ridiculous.

CougarTailDevourer

6/21/21 6:15pm

Agreed. But they also won't have the 43rd best RBs either. Sounds like he's over emphasizing game experience

TFL

6/21/21 6:25pm

What's really interesting is that he seems to think BYU plays a better schedule

krindorr

6/21/21 6:25pm

Good discussion for sure

Z-Ute

6/21/21 8:01pm

RE: Good discussion for sure

krindorr

6/21/21 8:10pm

It is a good schedule and will be fun to watch.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 8:30pm

That's cute.

SinkingQuffa

6/22/21 5:15am

Doubt it! Unlike QB, RB has been proven

Z-Ute

6/22/21 12:48pm

So, iows, they AREN'T proven. I'll go with the nationally ranked RB, thankyou.

SinkingQuffa

6/22/21 1:14pm

That BYU’s RBs are better than Yewtahs!!

LumberCoug

6/21/21 6:34pm

Utah will end up with better RBs, Utah is actually stacked this year, should be

jazzfan1232

6/21/21 6:43pm

Yeah and BYU will probably develop all of those other positions to end up better

LumberCoug

6/21/21 6:47pm

Stacked....

Z-Ute

6/21/21 6:58pm

Who cares how many FBS offers they had? Some of those names in that list are now All-Americans.

CougarTailDevourer

6/21/21 7:13pm

Care to be a little more specific?

Z-Ute

6/21/21 7:16pm

You seem to appreciate Phil’s opinion. He declared several of those guys all

LumberCoug

6/21/21 7:44pm

Oh I gotcha

Z-Ute

6/21/21 8:08pm

RE: Stacked....

LumberCoug

6/21/21 7:36pm

Signed Dennis Pitta!

cowbellcoug

6/21/21 8:06pm

Utah has really added a ton of talent and has everyone back. I agree that it

jazzfan1232

6/21/21 7:51pm

Allgier ran behind an Oline that was bigger and more talented than the Dlines

Z-Ute

6/21/21 7:10pm

Z-Ute, forgive my curiosity. Are you a Utah student, graduate, or a fan from

cowbellcoug

6/21/21 8:12pm

Was, no, sort of.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 8:24pm

I know, ya got one.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 7:10pm

Probably no more than many fans, but he has a magazine, a following and that

basman

6/21/21 7:22pm

Actually I think he is more than that.

Z-Ute

6/21/21 8:45pm

That I won't go looking for or spending money on his magazine this year.

LEDSFW

6/21/21 11:28pm

Not enough to make accurate predictions at this point. Obviously pretty weak

1CougFan

6/22/21 1:45am

This shows that Utah returns more players than BYU. Unfortunately for BYU,

ALUF 1990

6/22/21 5:22am

The guy gets paid to make early predictions. It’s what he does

Medute

6/22/21 6:35am

Why are there 2 POTDs? There is nothing positive here… are these people

Pretorian

6/22/21 4:11am

By all means, bring it if you think you got it.

SinkingQuffa

6/22/21 5:09am

So Vegas thinks Utah is a 7 point fav at this point

Z-Ute

6/22/21 12:12pm

Sounds quite a bit less certain than Phil. Maybe both are rolling dice?

SinkingQuffa

6/22/21 1:16pm

5 pac teams listed as surprise teams…that’s stupid.

idcougarfan

6/22/21 11:00am

RE: What does Phil Know?

6/22/21 11:27am

so basically any Pac-12 team having a good season would be a surprise

Hill4Heisman

6/22/21 12:07pm

You mean better than predicted?

Z-Ute

6/22/21 12:13pm

Some BYU love from Phil (then again, what does he know)

Z-Ute

6/22/21 12:14pm

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