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Oct 19, 2021
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BYUheaven
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I think he only included rivalry games and Whit doesn’t consider us a rival.
So Utah game wasn’t included.
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PFF Grades
kimdaddy35
Future Lions Scout
10/19/21 2:45pm
Bywater @ #448? Didn't think he was bad
Gunga Galunga
10/19/21 2:47pm
He sometimes makes the wrong read, is out of position. He's great when he
Dangerous
10/19/21 2:49pm
Sure, I just didn't think it happened often enough to warrant 448.
Gunga Galunga
10/19/21 2:51pm
Baylor and BSU were rough games for him.
Turnpike Lane
10/19/21 2:52pm
Is that something that will come with experience? I know it's his 3rd year with
cougarfan84
10/19/21 2:54pm
As Dangerous said he makes the wrong decision too often for that position. He also doesn't do a
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:04pm
Do they have game-by-game? IIRC he was higher rated early in the year before he switched.
mokelembembe
10/19/21 3:08pm
They do if you have premium stats which is $30 a month and I don't have that so I don't know. I can tell you this year
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:13pm
His only “good” game was USU. he and Mahe are the two worst starters.
molodyets
10/19/21 4:36pm
Against Boise he overpursued in run support
Boring
10/19/21 6:52pm
Pili really covered for a lot of mistakes he was making...
Coug
10/19/21 3:30pm
Pili....
mokelembembe
10/21/21 2:10pm
Interesting as he's seemed like a liability to me since game 1.
RUNBYU1
10/19/21 4:31pm
He’s a big reason the D struggles in the run game
GulfCoastcoug
10/19/21 6:01pm
Interesting info. Thanks
Blueto
10/19/21 2:50pm
Thanks for sharing, interesting stuff
JollyGreenGiant
10/19/21 2:50pm
Mahe, Batty, Bywater, Mariner and Robinson rate out prety low in these rankings. Mahe surprises me the most.
Turnpike Lane
10/19/21 2:51pm
I was surprised he was so low as well. According to the rankings he loses almost every play.
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:01pm
Those surprised me as well, but I guess after last week is not as surprising.
Blueto
10/19/21 3:18pm
RE: Mahe, Batty, Bywater, Mariner and Robinson rate out prety low in these
Traveller 1968
10/19/21 4:00pm
Love this. I need to pay for pff to look at the pros.
johnnycarson
10/19/21 2:52pm
What did you put as the minimum, because I'm getting slightly different results?
displacedute
10/19/21 2:54pm
I think he only included rivalry games and Whit doesn’t consider us a rival.
BYUheaven
10/19/21 3:01pm
I didn't put anything. They have their own minimum and I simply click if I want to include the other guys
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:02pm
Oh, my version lists everyone and then if I want to narrow it down I can.
displacedute
10/19/21 3:21pm
So my rankings always include everyone. Hall is #39 offensively when compared to everyone. If you narrowed it down to
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:27pm
A few things I've gleaned from this
LeonMarek
10/19/21 3:01pm
l know why our pass rushers are rated so poor. They bull rush 80%+ of the time while being gap sound.
Turnpike Lane
10/19/21 3:25pm
John Nelson almost meets the min snaps and looks to be around 180ish
mokelembembe
10/19/21 3:17pm
wow. he might be better than I thought
LeonMarek
10/19/21 3:20pm
Mangelson has about 70 snaps and is near Batty. Both those Freshman just need weight.
mokelembembe
10/19/21 3:44pm
I wonder if Allgeier's pass blocking keeps him from declaring this year?
WP17
10/19/21 3:18pm
He would be rated higher as a pure runner, but still not in the top 50. I think the reason for that is that PFF has a
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:19pm
If Allgeier is wise, he won't declare. He's not good enough to be drafted and
Jasbo
10/19/21 4:06pm
I get the money thing and all... but it will still be there regardless if Tyler Allgeier comes back to BYU next season..
Coug
10/19/21 3:22pm
Ah You needs to come back in my opinion. He likely won't be drafted and with another year he could move his stock up.
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 4:40pm
so based on this, Allgeier is not even close to going to the NFL
Hill4Heisman
10/19/21 3:29pm
Based on this alone that is correct. But using a win/loss model (more complicated than that but still) to evaluate
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 3:46pm
Samson highest rated blocker at WR for BYU
mokelembembe
10/19/21 3:48pm
You’ve got something special in Puka. I’m sure no one’s surprised to see him
kos
10/19/21 4:59pm
I assume this is only looking at 2021? I'd like to see the career comp between
Accipiter
10/19/21 5:19pm
Why is it interesting? PFF grades them on what they were asked to do on the play.
molodyets
10/19/21 5:29pm
I believe I said why it’s interesting… our backup QB is ranking fairly high.
Accipiter
10/21/21 8:04pm
I'm struggling with the part where young Barrington is better than Harris LaChan
TO11
10/19/21 5:35pm
Same - Campbell Barrington at #152?
cougXor
10/19/21 7:02pm
LaChance was not very good when he played. Barrington was very good against Utah St. Not as much against Baylor
kimdaddy35
10/19/21 7:22pm
Fair on the OL- I got hammered saying Freeland struggled in run blocking
1984coug
10/19/21 6:53pm
Chaz should be higher than moore
Seahawks CougFan
10/19/21 7:45pm
Chaz's grade includes his linebacker snaps
mokelembembe
10/19/21 7:57pm
Safety Chaz is awesome, LB Chaz not so much
molodyets
10/19/21 8:00pm
Linebacker Chaz has trouble going through blocks and filling the right hole.
kimdaddy35
10/20/21 1:15am
Last 2 games would be very different.
Bluedarts
10/19/21 8:28pm
I'm surprised the Oline rates so high. Interesting the Dline rates so poorly.
runnincoug
10/19/21 9:07pm
If Pili wasn't injured, BYU would likely have 3 top 60 linebackers
donnerstag
10/19/21 10:07pm
El Bakri and Dawe were seniors last year.m*
molodyets
10/19/21 10:35pm
Both were eligible to return in 2021 if they wanted to
donnerstag
10/20/21 3:35am
What was Tuiaki's grade?
BDAWG
10/19/21 9:59pm
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