I would agree to an extent, but Cosic was before my time as was Billy the Hill.

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May 10, 2022
11:01:16am

Utefaninenemyland Contributor

I would agree to an extent, but Cosic was before my time as was Billy the Hill.

I still know about them. If I was throwing it out there I would do some research. Those early eighties games with Ainge, Durrant, Chambers, Vranes we’re the best the rivalry has ever seen. Both Arenas packed to the rafters and both teams nationally relevant.

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Time

All Time Starting 5

Pack4

5/10/22 8:08am

No Cosic?

WJCougar

5/10/22 8:11am

Yoeli was a stud but isn’t close to Cosic.

CougGolf

5/10/22 8:15am

actually I'm not so sure.

5/10/22 4:43pm

I agree...and Cosic was a buddy of mine.

5/10/22 5:53pm

Right, Cosic belongs in this 5

WallaX2

5/10/22 8:20am

Probably "recency" bias. OP may not know who Cosic is. He played a long time ago

Hoopster

5/10/22 8:21am

I'm not old enough to have seen him play either...but I know who he is.

WJCougar

5/10/22 8:24am

Saturday nights listening to Cosic and the Cougars play on KSL as my dad and I

Hoopster

5/10/22 8:28am

Same with jimmer as goat... he's not, it's Danny ainge.

runnincoug

5/10/22 9:33am

He didn’t score like Jimmer. He might be the GOAT, but he didn’t score like Jimm

dixdog

5/10/22 10:12am

Ainge would have been the all time scoring leader if he had a 3 point line.

BYUCPA

5/10/22 10:56am

Plus great defense. Recent bias says jimmer

Acorn

5/10/22 2:48pm

Uh. Wrong. Danny Ainge. Scoring was better than Jimmers let alone other metrics.

CMAC38

5/10/22 11:51am

RE: Uh. Wrong. Danny Ainge. Scoring was better than Jimmers let alone other

Pack4

5/10/22 12:26pm

WOW. This 100% convinced me. I used to think it was debatable but it’s not. I

5/10/22 1:05pm

Ainge was a two-sport professional athlete. Extremely few players can claim this

(Private)

5/10/22 1:54pm

Ainge is no longer top 2 in career points, assists, or steals.

j20

5/10/22 2:42pm

Good point. However the comparison was between Jimmer and Ainge.

CMAC38

5/10/22 4:53pm

so Ainge > Jimmer because Ainge held a record for 30 yrs.. then Jimmer broke it?

Hill4Heisman

5/10/22 5:48pm

It took Jimmer 21 more games to get more points. Not to mention

CMAC38

5/10/22 8:05pm

Apparently you didn’t even read the post you’re replying to?

Coug-Ida

5/10/22 10:58pm

Ainge was surrounded by NBA talent. Fred Roberts, Greg Kite. I'll take Jimmer

hitechcpa

5/11/22 5:08pm

Good point...and I thought that the Jimmer was all world, but I think I will

5/11/22 5:49pm

RE: He didn’t score like Jimmer. He might be the GOAT, but he didn’t

BYUgeezer

5/10/22 2:10pm

Congdon and Nemelka were fantastic players.

Oldcougfan

5/10/22 3:55pm

Heck, what about Bernie Fryer? He had a long NBA career.:) Or Dick Nemelka

basman

5/10/22 8:23am

Cosic is definitely Top 5 in BYU history.

WJCougar

5/10/22 8:24am

But Bernie did have a long NBA history, as an official.:) He was director of

basman

5/10/22 8:50am

Love Bernie. Love Nemelka

WallaX2

5/10/22 9:00am

Yea, I saw plenty of pictures of Bernie Fryer at the high school in Port

5/11/22 5:58pm

RE: No Cosic?

Pack4

5/10/22 8:58am

I would put Cosic above Bradley.

mncstr

5/10/22 9:29am

Or Durant, Roberts

diabloguero

5/10/22 10:27am

Davies instead of Bradley

(Private)

5/10/22 8:20am

Bradley was a force in college. Maybe not so much in the NBA, but he was the

BYUMizzou

5/10/22 8:28am

Maybe but does one year at BYU qualify you for the all-time starting 5?

ManicBlue

5/10/22 9:54am

Bradley is the only BYU player that’s been one and done. That should tell you Bradley belongs on the starting 5.

SierraCoug

5/10/22 10:01am

Yeah ... no

ManicBlue

5/10/22 10:02am

Depends on what your criteria for "all time starting 5" is. The best individual

BYUMizzou

5/10/22 10:02am

Nope ... you'd better read up on Cosic first.

ManicBlue

5/10/22 10:29am

I think he is including Cosic at the 4. I would

5/10/22 1:07pm

Where did he include him?

ManicBlue

5/10/22 1:13pm

Yoeli? Lol.

Idacoug

5/10/22 8:21am

Big miss here IMHO

5/10/22 8:25am

Fred Robert’s at PF

Nat Gas Man

5/10/22 8:52am

Devin Durrant? Do you even know your own teams history?

Utefaninenemyland

5/10/22 9:01am

Trouble is guys who start these treads are too young to have seen

Oldcougfan

5/10/22 10:16am

I would agree to an extent, but Cosic was before my time as was Billy the Hill.

Utefaninenemyland

5/10/22 11:01am

My dad was at the U during those years (He is a BYU fan but a Utah Man)

5/10/22 3:11pm

Cosic, Davies, Araujo, Hutchins, Roberts, Kite, Durrant and so many others.

Mabuhay Coug

5/10/22 9:46am

Ainge, Jimmer, and Cosic are No Brainers...

lbmango

5/10/22 11:47am

Jimmer was one dimensional. There are at least 8 guys here with better all

Utefaninenemyland

5/10/22 4:28pm

Yet Jimmer absolutely single handed my destroyed the Utes

Big Daddy D

5/11/22 1:12pm

Yes he destroyed one of the worst Utah teams ever. Ainge put up 35 against a

Utefaninenemyland

5/11/22 1:24pm

"Shawn Bradley at the 5 he can stretch the floor"?

icecougar

5/10/22 12:26pm

RE: "Shawn Bradley at the 5 he can stretch the floor"?

Pack4

5/10/22 12:29pm

I like Fred Roberts as my PF.

Rocketman

5/10/22 12:47pm

Of those 5, Ainge would serve as the best PG.

SinkingQuffa

5/10/22 1:38pm

This brings me to a point of contention.

(Private)

5/10/22 1:57pm

Ainge Toolson - guards

CCookie

5/10/22 2:04pm

Ainge. Toolson. Robert’s Smith. Bradley

CCookie

5/10/22 2:06pm

Andy Toolson

CCookie

5/10/22 2:07pm

To make an all-time Top 5, you CAN NOT be a one-way player

BYUDM93

5/10/22 3:06pm

Mike Smith was a defensive liability?

(Private)

5/10/22 3:51pm

Absolutely. He got by in college. Completely exposed in the NBA.

BYUDM93

5/10/22 7:55pm

Jimmer won every major award, it doesn’t matter how bad his defense was, he’s in

robin

5/10/22 4:30pm

OK-2nd five. Then the 1st five plays the 2nd five and Ainge shuts him down hard.

BYUDM93

5/10/22 8:04pm

Nice try but maybe you should say recent best 5- otherwise waaaay off

Bill

5/10/22 5:21pm

Mel Hutchins? Rolan Minson?

arizonacougarfan

5/10/22 6:01pm

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