And only 2 Pac 12 teams have made the playoffs at all. In fact, NO Pac 12 team has made the playoffs since 2016. And that's kind of the issue here. Every year it's the same song and dance of Pac 12 teams getting ranked way too high in the preseason only to accomplish nothing. So I'll believe it when I see it. The only thing that has me inclined to believe this year will be any different is Lincoln Riley, but you'll have to forgive me if I wait until Utah can actually beat an FBS team outside their conference before I believe their hype.