Steph will never be in the Goat discussion because of one simple reason

Jun 17, 2022
10:03:54am

Blueto All-American

He has been a defensive liability his entire career. Guys like MJ, LBJ, and Kareem were offensive juggernauts and also 1st team all defensive players. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time but basketball has two components.

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Blueto

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May have been said, but the past 7 years are clearly the Steph Curry era. How

nybyblue

6/17/22 8:46am

LBJ won 2 championships in that same time frame.

Blueto

6/17/22 8:51am

Yeah, half what Steph did is pretty good.

byujdmba

6/17/22 9:03am

Steph wasn’t even the best player on his team for two of those titles

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 9:07am

Correction, he wasn't the most selfish player on his team for two of those.

Shaka Laka

6/17/22 9:41am

That may be the most favorable point about Curry. NO other superstar would have

nybyblue

6/17/22 9:51am

This is false. Curry helps his team more than anyone in the game. He opens

Thrill

6/17/22 9:53am

Goes the other way too. Durant causes all sorts of problems for defenses

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 11:01am

Do you really believe that though? Really?

Mitty

6/17/22 1:13pm

100% that was Prime KD. He was the second best if not the best player in the

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 1:16pm

In keeping with your reviews of why GS seems to keep winning titles, who was it this year if not Steph?

RoaroftheCougartails

6/17/22 1:38pm

It was clearly Steph. Who else would it be?

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 1:45pm

Thats what I was wondering. You have just discounted Steph or blamed injuries in every other title they've won. 😉

RoaroftheCougartails

6/17/22 1:54pm

Discounted? No. I said he wasn't the best player and that he had some luck to

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 2:06pm

If we don’t give him credit due to injuries in 15

Remigius

6/17/22 2:26pm

I gave him credit for being the best player on 15 but the injuries definitely

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 2:30pm

Steph wasn't healthy in '16

Remigius

6/17/22 2:51pm

I will give you Bogut for sure. Hurt is not injured. Injured means you don’t

Charles Darwin

6/17/22 2:55pm

Steph will never be in the Goat discussion because of one simple reason

Blueto

6/17/22 10:03am

Steph doesn't get the credit he deserves on the defensive end of the court

Remigius

6/17/22 11:37am

Bluto I mean a lot of people cant stand listening to Jeff Van Gundy but if you watched any of these games he mentioned

RoaroftheCougartails

6/17/22 1:43pm

It's a good argument. Lebron's decisions have done himself in. He should have

Mr. Rumsfield

6/17/22 8:52am

totally agree, both about King James and about Steph

nybyblue

6/17/22 9:52am

I disagree he changed the game for the better. So that is subjective

PING Man

6/17/22 8:53am

“…fundamentally transformed the game of basketball…” . . . “…for the better…”

kalifi

6/17/22 8:59am

Even if you wanna call this the Steph era, LeBron’s prime was 2008-2013

PHXSUNS31

6/17/22 9:10am

Lol. 2 of Steph’s titles came with the GREATEST team of all time. 2017 and 2018

TheMediator

6/17/22 9:20am

I dont think the OP was trying to say Steph is better than Lebron but more to point out how much praise Bron gets

RoaroftheCougartails

6/17/22 12:09pm

The tail end of LeBron’s prime probably overlapped with Curry’s prime

garyfan

6/17/22 9:22am

People want so badly not to give LeBron the credit he's due.

benny1982

6/17/22 9:22am

Because he has created a lot of his own problems

bluelands

6/17/22 9:26am

That's not a good excuse for not giving him the credit he's due.

benny1982

6/17/22 9:29am

The entire point of this thread is that Steph developed a winning culture

bluelands

6/17/22 9:41am

The OP also tried to claim that LeBron wasn't the greatest of his era during his

benny1982

6/17/22 9:43am

And to say that LeBron doesn't make his teammates better is laughable.

benny1982

6/17/22 9:46am

RE: People want so badly not to give LeBron the credit he's due.

d-coug

6/17/22 9:27am

This is false

Remigius

6/17/22 9:37am

Just because most people do doesn't mean some stubborn holdouts don't.

benny1982

6/17/22 9:39am

Agreed. Large majority consider him 2nd best at worst,many consider him the best

palangi

6/17/22 9:48am

Not true, at least for me. I actually love Lebron he is a great player, we have

nybyblue

6/17/22 10:10am

Not me. There wasn’t a bigger LBJ fan than I was…

Refugee

6/17/22 11:06am

I would imagine half the league has talked with their agent about how

bluelands

6/17/22 9:23am

Yeah, In the LeBron vs. Steph debate, we should remember that Bjelica

garyfan

6/17/22 9:26am

I get your snarkiness. It's hard for some people

bluelands

6/17/22 9:43am

Dude, you brought up Bjelica in a GOAT debate. Sometimes snark is earned.

garyfan

6/17/22 3:48pm

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