Big12 will have a much stronger negotiating position once the PAC is dead.

Jul 3, 2022
4:55:57pm

KingDave Plexmaster

B1G may not want them now and UW/UO will have nowhere else to go, unless they want to join the ACC.

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If the B12 kills the PAC, UW and UO should come along soon after.

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Arizona 247 site reporting that Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah are meeting with Big 12 Tuesday.

molodyets Slava Ukraini

7/3/22 4:48pm

Gross. Utah adds near zero value.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 4:49pm

I think they add value, but I still don't want them in our conference.

bbqoug

7/3/22 4:53pm

How? They are the only P12 school that wouldn’t add territory.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 4:55pm

Value isn’t only about territory

molodyets

7/3/22 4:59pm

Ok, they wouldn’t add viewers.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 5:30pm

As much as it pains me to say, they are the only one of those four

Tare

7/3/22 7:01pm

I hate Utah as much as anyone on here, but they would add nearly 1m viewers.

Big McLargeHuge

7/3/22 7:50pm

The dirty secret is half a mil of those viewers were BYU fans

machete

7/3/22 8:14pm

Not disputing that, but the same could be said for our viewership numbers.

Big McLargeHuge

7/3/22 8:27pm

Are they also throwing the Brooklyn Bridge into that sales pitch?

Les IsMore

7/3/22 8:32pm

I totally Agree as of today. But what if they start losing? KWhitt will retire.

The_Cuss

7/3/22 9:33pm

This is a ridiculous statement

BYU-Laie

7/3/22 9:42pm

When was the last time Utah beat a team from any of those conferences? 5 years?

BYUtka

7/3/22 10:37pm

And after Whit retires?

HandwovenBox

7/3/22 11:32pm

Even with Whit, things aren't as amazing as people pretend they are. Outside the

BYUtka

7/4/22 6:05am

Utah adds more value than Arizona

Skeptical Optimist

7/3/22 5:14pm

Disagree

vegas guey

7/3/22 5:34pm

BASKETBALL DOESN'T MATTER

PrimeQuantumDeek

7/3/22 6:58pm

Wrong

OldFogey

7/3/22 6:44pm

Don't want Utah in but he's right.

kahuna

7/3/22 8:16pm

Not really.

BYUtka

7/3/22 8:24pm

At least as much value as BYU. Sorry if you don’t like that fact. I can show you

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:42pm

Be careful to criticize

chirocoug

7/3/22 8:01pm

At least the Big 12 is taking action

pappabear246

7/3/22 9:36pm

They actually subtract value from BYU. Don’t let ‘em in

BYU-Laie

7/3/22 8:13pm

I dislike Utah as much as the next guy. But they add value to the Big 12.

Vert der Frick

7/3/22 8:57pm

What value? What do they bring?

BYUtka

7/3/22 9:10pm

About as much value as BYU.

Vert der Frick

7/3/22 9:44pm

In Big12 country? Not a chance.

NorthernLight

7/3/22 9:45pm

This isn't anywhere close to true.

whirl

7/4/22 1:33pm

Stability to the conference.

LaserCoug

7/3/22 9:47pm

Can do that with the two AZ schools. Don't need Utah for that.

BYUtka

7/4/22 6:03am

Colorado approaching the Big12…

rivercitycoug

7/3/22 4:51pm

RE: Colorado approaching the Big12…

Magathis

7/3/22 4:53pm

I would love to be a fly on the wall

runningryan

7/3/22 5:04pm

So glad the Big 12 is moving fast. No time to waste.

TempeCoug

7/3/22 4:51pm

Other than Oregon and UW, this is the best move for the Big 12. I hate to say it

macdizzle

7/3/22 4:51pm

Should take 2 and then wait to see what UO and UW decide

GlutealGuy

7/3/22 4:54pm

Take all 4 and then take them too if they don’t go to the Big 10

macdizzle

7/3/22 4:55pm

I just don’t know if all 4 bring enough revenue to go to 16

GlutealGuy

7/3/22 5:08pm

Big12 should be all in on Oregon and Washington.

byubyu

7/3/22 4:52pm

They probably are but that doesn’t mean Oregon and Washington are interested.

TempeCoug

7/3/22 4:54pm

Big12 will have a much stronger negotiating position once the PAC is dead.

KingDave

7/3/22 4:55pm

Sadly, I agree. I don’t want Utah in the B12 but it’ll kill the PAC more quickly

Lalau

7/3/22 9:18pm

Those two in time...

KU4LIFE

7/3/22 5:12pm

Link por favor

ColonelMustard

7/3/22 4:52pm

It's about 12 threads down (and here)

Art Director

7/3/22 4:56pm

I've never liked Arizona, they seem like trailer trash, but it's probably the

UNLVcougar

7/3/22 4:53pm

The University of Arizona is a great school with fine academics. Their fans are

rockyrd

7/3/22 8:34pm

Not sure they bring enough money to the table

Nat Gas Man

7/4/22 1:47pm

“The next move for Arizona seems obvious, but the biggest obstacle may be

rivercitycoug

7/3/22 4:53pm

Why would UT already be in discussions with the Big12 if the B1G was an option?

jrifkin48

7/3/22 4:54pm

Because Ute administration isn’t stupid. Just the fans. They’d be about the 8-10

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:47pm

TNT could live with this deal. The conference would be stronger

TNT

7/3/22 4:54pm

So Oregon and Washington must be off the table if true. Otherwise we’d be dumb

ColonelMustard

7/3/22 4:57pm

Either not interested or fairly confident in the B1G

TNT

7/3/22 4:58pm

i don't know how they couldn't be interested. what other options do they have if

ColonelMustard

7/3/22 5:22pm

Or it forces their hand. If they don't go to the Big 10, they're not staying in

Twitch Chatter

7/3/22 4:59pm

Seems like that would require some tactical planning by the Big 12

TNT

7/3/22 4:59pm

Raccoons and Opossums are clever animals

runningryan

7/3/22 5:07pm

I have said this all along

runningryan

7/3/22 5:05pm

Not necessarily. Just forcing the issue.

Baylorbears11

7/3/22 4:59pm

We have no idea what the intended result of these meetings are. Just that they are happening.

molodyets

7/3/22 5:01pm

Of course. They must be getting together to discuss vacation destinations!

TNT

7/3/22 5:02pm

Could be a selling point to some of the schools

calblue

7/3/22 5:15pm

They can always come later if the PAC10 is destroyed and B1G doesn’t want them.

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:48pm

If Utah is included in the Big 12, I say they have to pay an extra 10 million a year to BYU for being nice & welcoming.

cougarfanatic

7/3/22 5:01pm

IF this is the case, it would stand to reason that Oregon and UW have been

Alan Garner

7/3/22 5:15pm

Or that OR and Wash have reason to believe they'll be admitted to the B1G.

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 6:46pm

If utah gets in that sucks for our recruiting. Would be so good to leave them

ColonelMustard

7/3/22 5:22pm

as bad as we have struggled against them recruiting since indy, what could we do

kiyoshige

7/3/22 7:36pm

Bluffing to force UO/UW?

BYUHgrad

7/3/22 6:48pm

They're just meeting. No invitations issued.

charles

7/3/22 7:41pm

Letting Oregon and Washington know that these teams are meeting

davidsonlaw

7/3/22 8:44pm

my best case ...

davidsonlaw

7/3/22 8:45pm

Will someone be digging thru the trash for the meeting notes this time?

thewaterboy

7/3/22 9:27pm

I've read that if Notre Dame goes to Big 10, then Oregon is in. The team looking

mflood

7/4/22 12:14am

Nah. Be Stanford.

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