I totally Agree as of today. But what if they start losing? KWhitt will retire.

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Jul 3, 2022
9:33:09pm

The_Cuss Intervention Needed

I totally Agree as of today. But what if they start losing? KWhitt will retire.

It is extremely hard to continue their level of success. If they can’t keep the momentum (like most teams not named Bama) things could go downhill quick for Utah. For example: Curtains in basketball stadiums.

BYU kept decent attendance numbers even during the darker days of independence.

I’m not saying things will go downhill for them in 1 or two years. But they will have their ups and downs just like all programs do.

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Arizona 247 site reporting that Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah are meeting with Big 12 Tuesday.

molodyets Slava Ukraini

7/3/22 4:48pm

Gross. Utah adds near zero value.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 4:49pm

I think they add value, but I still don't want them in our conference.

bbqoug

7/3/22 4:53pm

How? They are the only P12 school that wouldn’t add territory.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 4:55pm

Value isn’t only about territory

molodyets

7/3/22 4:59pm

Ok, they wouldn’t add viewers.

DirtyWater

7/3/22 5:30pm

As much as it pains me to say, they are the only one of those four

Tare

7/3/22 7:01pm

I hate Utah as much as anyone on here, but they would add nearly 1m viewers.

Big McLargeHuge

7/3/22 7:50pm

The dirty secret is half a mil of those viewers were BYU fans

machete

7/3/22 8:14pm

Not disputing that, but the same could be said for our viewership numbers.

Big McLargeHuge

7/3/22 8:27pm

Are they also throwing the Brooklyn Bridge into that sales pitch?

Les IsMore

7/3/22 8:32pm

I totally Agree as of today. But what if they start losing? KWhitt will retire.

The_Cuss

7/3/22 9:33pm

This is a ridiculous statement

BYU-Laie

7/3/22 9:42pm

When was the last time Utah beat a team from any of those conferences? 5 years?

BYUtka

7/3/22 10:37pm

And after Whit retires?

HandwovenBox

7/3/22 11:32pm

Even with Whit, things aren't as amazing as people pretend they are. Outside the

BYUtka

7/4/22 6:05am

Utah adds more value than Arizona

Skeptical Optimist

7/3/22 5:14pm

Disagree

vegas guey

7/3/22 5:34pm

BASKETBALL DOESN'T MATTER

PrimeQuantumDeek

7/3/22 6:58pm

Wrong

OldFogey

7/3/22 6:44pm

Don't want Utah in but he's right.

kahuna

7/3/22 8:16pm

Not really.

BYUtka

7/3/22 8:24pm

At least as much value as BYU. Sorry if you don’t like that fact. I can show you

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:42pm

Be careful to criticize

chirocoug

7/3/22 8:01pm

At least the Big 12 is taking action

pappabear246

7/3/22 9:36pm

They actually subtract value from BYU. Don’t let ‘em in

BYU-Laie

7/3/22 8:13pm

I dislike Utah as much as the next guy. But they add value to the Big 12.

7/3/22 8:57pm

What value? What do they bring?

BYUtka

7/3/22 9:10pm

About as much value as BYU.

7/3/22 9:44pm

In Big12 country? Not a chance.

7/3/22 9:45pm

This isn't anywhere close to true.

whirl

7/4/22 1:33pm

Stability to the conference.

LaserCoug

7/3/22 9:47pm

Can do that with the two AZ schools. Don't need Utah for that.

BYUtka

7/4/22 6:03am

Colorado approaching the Big12…

7/3/22 4:51pm

RE: Colorado approaching the Big12…

Magathis

7/3/22 4:53pm

I would love to be a fly on the wall

runningryan

7/3/22 5:04pm

So glad the Big 12 is moving fast. No time to waste.

TempeCoug

7/3/22 4:51pm

Other than Oregon and UW, this is the best move for the Big 12. I hate to say it

macdizzle

7/3/22 4:51pm

Should take 2 and then wait to see what UO and UW decide

GlutealGuy

7/3/22 4:54pm

Take all 4 and then take them too if they don’t go to the Big 10

macdizzle

7/3/22 4:55pm

I just don’t know if all 4 bring enough revenue to go to 16

GlutealGuy

7/3/22 5:08pm

Big12 should be all in on Oregon and Washington.

byubyu

7/3/22 4:52pm

They probably are but that doesn’t mean Oregon and Washington are interested.

TempeCoug

7/3/22 4:54pm

Big12 will have a much stronger negotiating position once the PAC is dead.

KingDave

7/3/22 4:55pm

Sadly, I agree. I don’t want Utah in the B12 but it’ll kill the PAC more quickly

Lalau

7/3/22 9:18pm

Those two in time...

KU4LIFE

7/3/22 5:12pm

Link por favor

7/3/22 4:52pm

It's about 12 threads down (and here)

7/3/22 4:56pm

I've never liked Arizona, they seem like trailer trash, but it's probably the

UNLVcougar

7/3/22 4:53pm

The University of Arizona is a great school with fine academics. Their fans are

rockyrd

7/3/22 8:34pm

Not sure they bring enough money to the table

Nat Gas Man

7/4/22 1:47pm

“The next move for Arizona seems obvious, but the biggest obstacle may be

7/3/22 4:53pm

Why would UT already be in discussions with the Big12 if the B1G was an option?

jrifkin48

7/3/22 4:54pm

Because Ute administration isn’t stupid. Just the fans. They’d be about the 8-10

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:47pm

TNT could live with this deal. The conference would be stronger

TNT

7/3/22 4:54pm

So Oregon and Washington must be off the table if true. Otherwise we’d be dumb

7/3/22 4:57pm

Either not interested or fairly confident in the B1G

TNT

7/3/22 4:58pm

i don't know how they couldn't be interested. what other options do they have if

7/3/22 5:22pm

Or it forces their hand. If they don't go to the Big 10, they're not staying in

7/3/22 4:59pm

Seems like that would require some tactical planning by the Big 12

TNT

7/3/22 4:59pm

Raccoons and Opossums are clever animals

runningryan

7/3/22 5:07pm

I have said this all along

runningryan

7/3/22 5:05pm

Not necessarily. Just forcing the issue.

Baylorbears11

7/3/22 4:59pm

We have no idea what the intended result of these meetings are. Just that they are happening.

molodyets

7/3/22 5:01pm

Of course. They must be getting together to discuss vacation destinations!

TNT

7/3/22 5:02pm

Could be a selling point to some of the schools

calblue

7/3/22 5:15pm

They can always come later if the PAC10 is destroyed and B1G doesn’t want them.

canofpicante

7/3/22 7:48pm

If Utah is included in the Big 12, I say they have to pay an extra 10 million a year to BYU for being nice & welcoming.

cougarfanatic

7/3/22 5:01pm

IF this is the case, it would stand to reason that Oregon and UW have been

Alan Garner

7/3/22 5:15pm

Or that OR and Wash have reason to believe they'll be admitted to the B1G.

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 6:46pm

If utah gets in that sucks for our recruiting. Would be so good to leave them

7/3/22 5:22pm

as bad as we have struggled against them recruiting since indy, what could we do

kiyoshige

7/3/22 7:36pm

Bluffing to force UO/UW?

BYUHgrad

7/3/22 6:48pm

They're just meeting. No invitations issued.

charles

7/3/22 7:41pm

Letting Oregon and Washington know that these teams are meeting

davidsonlaw

7/3/22 8:44pm

my best case ...

davidsonlaw

7/3/22 8:45pm

Will someone be digging thru the trash for the meeting notes this time?

thewaterboy

7/3/22 9:27pm

I've read that if Notre Dame goes to Big 10, then Oregon is in. The team looking

mflood

7/4/22 12:14am

Nah. Be Stanford.

Soupie

7/4/22 12:46am

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