2017/18 were horrendous

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Aug 11, 2022
8:58:07am

cougarbart All-American

2017/18 were horrendous

Both Heaps and Mangum had solid freshman campaigns but in the end they were pretty awful. Mangum had the back to back Hail Marys. Heaps had the nice bowl game. Things went all downhill from there. I’m not sure who you rank below them in terms of overall resume at BYU since 2000 or at least post Beck

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Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

IceBlue

8/11/22 8:34am

Statistically, how have the elite 11 played out in college? Seems like ours have

8/11/22 8:35am

We don't get a statistically relevant number

Archaea

8/11/22 8:37am

How many have we had committed before? Heaps, Mangum, I'm assuming Olson

Polemic

8/11/22 8:40am

I don't know if the Elite 11 dates back to Olson. But only Heaps and Mangum

Archaea

8/11/22 8:41am

It does. All 3 won it

cougarbart

8/11/22 8:44am

I wouldn't say that. Heaps had moments but never could seem to deal with

Archaea

8/11/22 8:47am

Mangum had a great freshman season...

icecougar

8/12/22 10:23am

Tanner shared it with Jameis Winston. I’d say he was a pretty decent college QB.

RalphWiggam

8/11/22 8:49am

2017/18 were horrendous

cougarbart

8/11/22 8:58am

I was referring to Jameis. Mangum had moments of brilliance but also struggled at times.

RalphWiggam

8/11/22 9:03am

It was started in 1999, so Olson was. link

Archaea

8/11/22 8:46am

Affleck too

JOPE

8/11/22 8:49am

Here's the QB's from their site.....

mokelembembe

8/11/22 9:28am

What's confusing is that there's Elite 11 finalists and then Elite 11 regional competitors

krindorr

8/11/22 10:01am

Yeah, I think only a finalist should get to claim Elite 11....I mean it's right there in the name. Elite 11. 11. 11. 11.

mokelembembe

8/11/22 10:51am

Although I think they've upped it to 12 and then to 20 finalists... But yes I agree

krindorr

8/11/22 11:06am

I'd rather take my chances w/highly rated Elite 11 finalists. It's no guarantee

Forzaitalia

8/11/22 11:10am

Doesn't matter, we need to get good QBs yearly. About half will pan out

Thrill

8/11/22 12:35pm

And how much will it cost in NIL money?

blueaussie

8/11/22 8:35am

any relation to Eathyn?

LeonMarek

8/11/22 8:36am

...he of Immaculate Deflection fame...

8/11/22 8:40am

Kingsley

8/11/22 8:42am

i wonder the same

8/11/22 9:42am

It's a great signal to us. Thanks TC.

Archaea

8/11/22 8:36am

Gotta get real now. We will get players after the P2 are done offering.

8/11/22 8:38am

Don’t call it that. That’s what they want

canofpicante

8/11/22 4:26pm

RE: Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

durandal

8/11/22 8:38am

I think his recruiting has cooled. A little like Sol-Jay perhaps. The reason I

pinolero

8/11/22 8:39am

Because of his signal that he's LDS?

Archaea

8/11/22 8:40am

That rarely happens if they're legit good. McKee, Conover, were both lds and

pinolero

8/11/22 8:46am

Makes sense. The height issue.

Archaea

8/11/22 8:48am

Cousin is Kingsley Suamataia, who he says is his biggest recruiter.

Kdubb

8/11/22 8:39am

Did his dad play line for the Texas State armadillos and date the girl kicker?

BYUheaven

8/11/22 8:40am

Manu the slender?

rcbyufan

8/11/22 8:47am

that would be the one

BYUheaven

8/11/22 8:54am

Same QB class as Isaac Wilson.

Corn

8/11/22 8:43am

So... Don't recruit Elite 11 QB's if there's a chance you'll get another? Sounds

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:01am

If TC is a mission kid, that won't be a real issue

SingleStrapBackpack

8/11/22 9:18am

Agreed. There's a million reasons that it may not be an issue. Just recruit

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:21am

I don't even know how to respond.

Corn

8/11/22 9:39am

Originally intended for a post a little further down...

IceBlue

8/11/22 2:25pm

where did he say that?

8/11/22 9:44am

What a strange response and takeaway from that single sentence. Are you okay?

The_Cuss

8/11/22 12:01pm

Yes. That's what I got out of his single-line post. If you look closely,

squidmark

8/11/22 2:11pm

He’s looking to serve a mission, so he’s a different class than Isaac and will have no effect

Rat

8/11/22 10:01am

Let’s just not pull a Utah-Tuttle. But at least they weren’t stuck with Zach Wilson.

mvtoro

8/11/22 11:06am

I'd rather complete the Wilson dynasty with Isaac, especially if he's even remotely as talented as his older brother

letthewookieewin

8/11/22 8:48am

Well, Isaac aint going on a mission, and maybe this kid is. So no reason why we can’t have both

JOPE

8/11/22 8:51am

RE: Well, Isaac aint going on a mission, and maybe this kid is. So no reason why we can’t have both

letthewookieewin

8/11/22 8:53am

Isaac is going on a mission? Color me surprised since none of his brothers did.

Reach

8/11/22 8:53am

I said the opposite of that

JOPE

8/11/22 8:55am

Sounds like a reach.

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:02am

Gotta turn off the "aint" filter, maybe??

SinkingQuffa

8/11/22 9:14am

RE: I'd rather complete the Wilson dynasty with Isaac, especially if he's even

Lavell4life

8/11/22 9:14am

hope we can get him to some games this season

Avery

8/11/22 9:07am

An Elite 11 QB that says "playing at the Y is my goal" so a portion of CB...

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:10am

Who has said don't recruit him? Seems a little dramatic.

The_Cuss

8/11/22 12:03pm

QB recruiting is a crapshoot. The Mangum and Heaps debacles left me distrustful

Backcountry

8/11/22 9:16am

Just have to get 1out of 5 right and you're golden.

mokelembembe

8/11/22 9:19am

Ben Olsen should be added to this group.

CLCougar

8/11/22 9:20am

Heaps was a decent QB. He was Brandon Doman's scapegoat

MaxxPower

8/11/22 3:18pm

I’m not sure why people still think this

cougarbart

8/11/22 4:06pm

When Doman's offense was replaced, the offense instantly got miles better

MaxxPower

8/11/22 11:39pm

RE: Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

DirtyWater

8/11/22 9:25am

What is the relation to Eathyn?

(Private)

8/11/22 9:38am

Bless his grandmother

Gustav

8/11/22 9:54am

Florida State offer....we should want him. He is going a mish, therefore there

BYUfan92

8/11/22 12:17pm

RE: Florida State offer....we should want him. He is going a mish, therefore there

Rat

8/11/22 2:11pm

LOL true recently. But historically a top 20 all time program.

BYUfan92

8/11/22 3:44pm

And this follow up, seems very promising!

GangstaLean

8/11/22 2:36pm

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