QB recruiting is a crapshoot. The Mangum and Heaps debacles left me distrustful

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Aug 11, 2022
9:16:36am

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of HS QB evaluation and projections. BYUs best QBs are guys few other programs wanted.

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Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

IceBlue

8/11/22 8:34am

Statistically, how have the elite 11 played out in college? Seems like ours have

blackandblue

8/11/22 8:35am

We don't get a statistically relevant number

Archaea

8/11/22 8:37am

How many have we had committed before? Heaps, Mangum, I'm assuming Olson

Polemic

8/11/22 8:40am

I don't know if the Elite 11 dates back to Olson. But only Heaps and Mangum

Archaea

8/11/22 8:41am

It does. All 3 won it

cougarbart

8/11/22 8:44am

I wouldn't say that. Heaps had moments but never could seem to deal with

Archaea

8/11/22 8:47am

Mangum had a great freshman season...

icecougar

8/12/22 10:23am

Tanner shared it with Jameis Winston. I’d say he was a pretty decent college QB.

RalphWiggam

8/11/22 8:49am

2017/18 were horrendous

cougarbart

8/11/22 8:58am

I was referring to Jameis. Mangum had moments of brilliance but also struggled at times.

RalphWiggam

8/11/22 9:03am

It was started in 1999, so Olson was. link

Archaea

8/11/22 8:46am

Affleck too

JOPE

8/11/22 8:49am

Here's the QB's from their site.....

mokelembembe

8/11/22 9:28am

What's confusing is that there's Elite 11 finalists and then Elite 11 regional competitors

krindorr

8/11/22 10:01am

Yeah, I think only a finalist should get to claim Elite 11....I mean it's right there in the name. Elite 11. 11. 11. 11.

mokelembembe

8/11/22 10:51am

Although I think they've upped it to 12 and then to 20 finalists... But yes I agree

krindorr

8/11/22 11:06am

I'd rather take my chances w/highly rated Elite 11 finalists. It's no guarantee

Forzaitalia

8/11/22 11:10am

Doesn't matter, we need to get good QBs yearly. About half will pan out

Thrill

8/11/22 12:35pm

And how much will it cost in NIL money?

blueaussie

8/11/22 8:35am

any relation to Eathyn?

LeonMarek

8/11/22 8:36am

...he of Immaculate Deflection fame...

LeftOfNormal

8/11/22 8:40am

Kingsley

CougarCanuck76

8/11/22 8:42am

i wonder the same

ColonelMustard

8/11/22 9:42am

It's a great signal to us. Thanks TC.

Archaea

8/11/22 8:36am

Gotta get real now. We will get players after the P2 are done offering.

RealityCheck

8/11/22 8:38am

Don’t call it that. That’s what they want

canofpicante

8/11/22 4:26pm

RE: Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

durandal

8/11/22 8:38am

I think his recruiting has cooled. A little like Sol-Jay perhaps. The reason I

pinolero

8/11/22 8:39am

Because of his signal that he's LDS?

Archaea

8/11/22 8:40am

That rarely happens if they're legit good. McKee, Conover, were both lds and

pinolero

8/11/22 8:46am

Makes sense. The height issue.

Archaea

8/11/22 8:48am

Cousin is Kingsley Suamataia, who he says is his biggest recruiter.

Kdubb

8/11/22 8:39am

Did his dad play line for the Texas State armadillos and date the girl kicker?

BYUheaven

8/11/22 8:40am

Manu the slender?

rcbyufan

8/11/22 8:47am

that would be the one

BYUheaven

8/11/22 8:54am

Same QB class as Isaac Wilson.

Corn

8/11/22 8:43am

So... Don't recruit Elite 11 QB's if there's a chance you'll get another? Sounds

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:01am

If TC is a mission kid, that won't be a real issue

SingleStrapBackpack

8/11/22 9:18am

Agreed. There's a million reasons that it may not be an issue. Just recruit

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:21am

I don't even know how to respond.

Corn

8/11/22 9:39am

Originally intended for a post a little further down...

IceBlue

8/11/22 2:25pm

where did he say that?

ColonelMustard

8/11/22 9:44am

What a strange response and takeaway from that single sentence. Are you okay?

The_Cuss

8/11/22 12:01pm

Yes. That's what I got out of his single-line post. If you look closely,

squidmark

8/11/22 2:11pm

He’s looking to serve a mission, so he’s a different class than Isaac and will have no effect

Rat

8/11/22 10:01am

Let’s just not pull a Utah-Tuttle. But at least they weren’t stuck with Zach Wilson.

mvtoro

8/11/22 11:06am

I'd rather complete the Wilson dynasty with Isaac, especially if he's even remotely as talented as his older brother

letthewookieewin

8/11/22 8:48am

Well, Isaac aint going on a mission, and maybe this kid is. So no reason why we can’t have both

JOPE

8/11/22 8:51am

RE: Well, Isaac aint going on a mission, and maybe this kid is. So no reason why we can’t have both

letthewookieewin

8/11/22 8:53am

Isaac is going on a mission? Color me surprised since none of his brothers did.

Reach

8/11/22 8:53am

I said the opposite of that

JOPE

8/11/22 8:55am

Sounds like a reach.

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:02am

Gotta turn off the "aint" filter, maybe??

SinkingQuffa

8/11/22 9:14am

RE: I'd rather complete the Wilson dynasty with Isaac, especially if he's even

Lavell4life

8/11/22 9:14am

hope we can get him to some games this season

Avery

8/11/22 9:07am

An Elite 11 QB that says "playing at the Y is my goal" so a portion of CB...

IceBlue

8/11/22 9:10am

Who has said don't recruit him? Seems a little dramatic.

The_Cuss

8/11/22 12:03pm

QB recruiting is a crapshoot. The Mangum and Heaps debacles left me distrustful

Backcountry

8/11/22 9:16am

Just have to get 1out of 5 right and you're golden.

mokelembembe

8/11/22 9:19am

Ben Olsen should be added to this group.

CLCougar

8/11/22 9:20am

Heaps was a decent QB. He was Brandon Doman's scapegoat

MaxxPower

8/11/22 3:18pm

I’m not sure why people still think this

cougarbart

8/11/22 4:06pm

When Doman's offense was replaced, the offense instantly got miles better

MaxxPower

8/11/22 11:39pm

RE: Elite 11 QB from Oregon Has his sights set on BYU?

DirtyWater

8/11/22 9:25am

What is the relation to Eathyn?

(Private)

8/11/22 9:38am

Bless his grandmother

Gustav

8/11/22 9:54am

Florida State offer....we should want him. He is going a mish, therefore there

BYUfan92

8/11/22 12:17pm

RE: Florida State offer....we should want him. He is going a mish, therefore there

Rat

8/11/22 2:11pm

LOL true recently. But historically a top 20 all time program.

BYUfan92

8/11/22 3:44pm

And this follow up, seems very promising!

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