Let this sink in: Gunner dropped a TD pass and Oldroyd missed 2 FGs, and we

Sep 30, 2022
8:59:15am

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gifted USU a TD on a drive that we extended twice with penalties, and a FG on a short field from an onside kick.

With these plays, we very easily could have won by 30+ points.

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Skeptical Optimist

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Let this sink in:

Hawk Talons

9/30/22 8:54am

Means the offense wasn’t doing us many favors either.

Rat

9/30/22 8:54am

agreed, poor overall team performance.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:01am

In the end the offense graded out about a #19 in points scored per drive, D

kotacoug

9/30/22 9:13am

Where’d you find this? I like it.

YOHONOMOTO

9/30/22 9:47am

BCFtoys.com….. like I said it’s ‘about’ i just calculate it based off the way

kotacoug

9/30/22 9:58am

How do defensive TDs factor in?

Still Questing

9/30/22 10:33am

Taken out of offense calculations

kotacoug

9/30/22 11:58am

Can you show me the math on this?

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:51am

2 ppd for the defense and 2.8 ppd for the offense? That sound right?

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:54am

I think you are a bit off. The offense would be closer to 40ish and the D 60ish

Cougzilla

9/30/22 10:04am

No I think you’re right. I may have mixed up some drives, I get 2 and 2.82 so

kotacoug

9/30/22 10:13am

That sounds more like what I’d have expected.

YOHONOMOTO

9/30/22 10:18am

Ok cool, just wanted to make sure I was getting the numbers right. Thanks

Cougzilla

9/30/22 10:29am

What was Weber State's offensive rating vs. Utah State? Per that site.

Pollster

9/30/22 1:23pm

You really should edit your post.

Bluedarts

9/30/22 12:32pm

Miscalculated the numbers as noted in other responses. Defense was its usual #60

kotacoug

9/30/22 12:43pm

All units on the team were frustrating, but I have zero tolerance for comments

here's to hoping

9/30/22 10:28am

I apologize for the pick 6 and 2 more turnovers. Offense had it really rough...

Bluedarts

9/30/22 10:36am

outliers always exist, show me havoc over the past 5.5 years vs other teams.

here's to hoping

9/30/22 10:50am

Weber actually held them to 0, the USU TD was a kick return.

CameronG

9/30/22 11:09am

I don’t know about havoc, but I can show you consistency.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:12am

Yep, its all on the o, because we already know the d isn't gonna do its job

here's to hoping

9/30/22 11:28am

RE: Yep, its all on the o, because we already know the d isn't gonna do its job

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:36am

Maybe I will find time to respond to this fully but your parameters immediately

here's to hoping

9/30/22 11:42am

By using 24 as the standard it somewhat compensates for the fewer possessions

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:50am

Yeah Oregon, UAB, Baylor. All offense underperforming

BYU '80

9/30/22 2:27pm

I did look at it. You just don’t like the results.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 3:31pm

Then your analysis stinks

BYU '80

10/1/22 12:25am

This wasn’t the first game. The d had caused two turnovers coming in

BYU '80

9/30/22 2:24pm

The first half was atrocious

Avery

9/30/22 8:54am

Yet they did happen…

mulletino

9/30/22 8:55am

Exactly

Carnac

9/30/22 8:59am

Sorry but this is a very poor take. Last two drives we did everything possible

ordinary tri guy

9/30/22 8:56am

That's another point. College football is about style points

jrifkin48

9/30/22 8:58am

This. The final score was due in large part to Kalani’s extraordinary sense of sportsmanship

Lynk

9/30/22 9:04am

Which nobody care about. Blake Anderson didn't as he tried to take out Jaren

jrifkin48

9/30/22 9:08am

Kalani cares about it.

Lynk

9/30/22 9:12am

Kalani should care less about it

CameronG

9/30/22 11:11am

I wish he cared about leading by enough that backups got reps

BYUfan92

9/30/22 11:29am

didnt

lobocoug

9/30/22 5:07pm

didn't we run a reverse?

lobocoug

9/30/22 5:07pm

To be fair, if we don't get the turnovers, the complexion of the game changes

2FarGone

9/30/22 8:56am

Then let THIS sink in...

Eddie

9/30/22 8:57am

Not to mention two missed FG's that any college kicker should hit with relative ease

P-Boy Squad

9/30/22 8:58am

Essentially missed 3 since we didn’t dare kick it on one opportunity which resulted in a failed 4th down attempt.

mulletino

9/30/22 9:00am

Let this sink in: Gunner dropped a TD pass and Oldroyd missed 2 FGs, and we

Skeptical Optimist

9/30/22 8:59am

I'm somewhat skeptical about your Optimism. But if it plays out like that, I'd be a lot happier this morning!

Bert609

9/30/22 9:00am

I think Gunner, Kalani, Oldroyd and Tooley skimmed, had money on the game.

Benfica1

9/30/22 9:01am

RE: I think Gunner, Kalani, Oldroyd and Tooley skimmed, had money on the game.

Skeptical Optimist

9/30/22 9:02am

Wow, tough crowd.

Benfica1

9/30/22 9:45am

They were up by 18. I understand the point, but I don't think you can take much

cougaman

9/30/22 8:59am

And maybe they happened because USU isn’t very good? We also extended several

rivercitycoug

9/30/22 8:59am

Defense makes a great play, creates a turnover and TD. Meh, lucky, doesn’t count

Reasonable1

9/30/22 9:00am

First two turnovers were forced by good defensive plays

Remigius

9/30/22 9:03am

They are one of the worst teams in football because they turn the ball over

BYUheaven

9/30/22 9:04am

I think the best argument is that a team that not only lost to but were crushed

Bluedomination

9/30/22 9:09am

If you take away BYU's scores, BYU got shut out.

Belboz

9/30/22 9:10am

BYU won. It counts the same. Not totally happy. Can def. Improve. Go Cougs!!

baishel44

9/30/22 9:21am

CB complaining about D not being aggressive enough AND complaining that the D

NYC and Japan

9/30/22 9:26am

Turnovers do come from aggression which is why byu has forced five in five games

BYU '80

10/1/22 12:27am

that's why this Win feels like a Loss

mindzeYe

9/30/22 9:44am

Let this sink in: take away Hall, Brooks and Tooley and

CougaRR4L

9/30/22 9:45am

Two missed fgs and a dropped td. 2 drives at the end of the game that we went

Bluedarts

9/30/22 10:26am

On paper it doesn’t make sense but watchers of CFB know that rivalries like this

Pretorian

9/30/22 10:52am

Which is exactly what the TV guys were saying.

Eddie

9/30/22 11:00am

Is that why we managed to beat Utah last year?

Brisco

9/30/22 11:06am

It certainly helped and has helped them as we were big brother for a while

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:12pm

It's an excuse, USU had no business being in that game last night

CameronG

9/30/22 11:23am

Totally agree, the only reason they were in is because they get jacked up to

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:13pm

Then our guys should have been up for it as well, right?

BleedCougarBlue2

9/30/22 12:00pm

Except the way rivalries work is a big brother little brother scenario

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:18pm

Let this sink in:

my4boys

9/30/22 11:07am

You could also list several small things that, if they had gone differently,

porl thompson

9/30/22 11:13am

Nobody is Complaining about a Win

USCougar04

9/30/22 11:23am

well, I kind of am....

Recon Ranger

9/30/22 11:33am

Yes, 1/2 the board are nobodies.

porl thompson

9/30/22 2:17pm

In trouble the next 2 weeks

BYUvermont

9/30/22 11:28am

I’m wondering what your point is. Is there something we should do?

canofpicante

9/30/22 11:29am

Watch the game and then ask your question.

Hawk Talons

9/30/22 1:03pm

No, no. You’re not talking to the coaches or players. What do you want me and

canofpicante

9/30/22 1:31pm

I don’t play the what if game. I don’t play it when we lose, nor when we win.

andrewg3

9/30/22 11:38am

they scored a garbage TD at the end of the game against our reserves, AND

Str8CashCougar

9/30/22 11:44am

You deflectors are an embarrassment to intelligence and coddle mediocrity. The

Horacio Caine

9/30/22 12:52pm

Woulda coulda shoulda. Blah blah blah. We win the freaking game. Be happy.

flyonawall

9/30/22 1:16pm

RE: Let this sink in:

TheHikingProfessor

9/30/22 1:16pm

Some people just choose to miserable, I guess? Excellent BYU teams in the past

grosven

9/30/22 1:18pm

Ignorance is bliss

Horacio Caine

9/30/22 3:05pm

I only watched the second half. We completely dominated. win by 30 if Kalani

qwerew

9/30/22 4:58pm

And we easily could have scored again. It wasn't that close.

rockyrd

9/30/22 5:23pm

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