8-4 or 7-5 were what metrics predicted. We returned good offense and poor defensive talent.

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Dec 3, 2022
4:00:59pm

WP17 King of the Kenai

Deseret News

ESPN’s final SP+ preseason rankings are out. Where do BYU, Utah and Utah State rank?

While most things stayed the same for Utah and BYU, Utah State received a bump from the latest rankings

https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/22/23317254/espns-final-preseason-sp-rankings-byu-utah-and-utah-state-rank

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WP17

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One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and transfers.

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:42pm

This is the best class in the kalani era and this year we could get the average

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:44pm

The program has collapsed twice on his watch.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:44pm

Not even close to a collapse

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:44pm

Absolutely it was. BYU returned one of the most experienced teams. 9 wins was

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:46pm

Should have been a great year. Schedule wasn't a tough as it was made

777

12/3/22 3:48pm

9 wins was the expectation. We have a decent shot at getting 8.

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:53pm

Who was tougher than expected other than Oregon?

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:54pm

Liberty, ECU, USF probably after having close losses

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:56pm

Oh so by your criteria, if they beat BYU, they were tougher than expected? Or

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 4:07pm

Why do you keep making excuses for the staff?

TNT

12/3/22 6:02pm

How many 8-5 seasons did Bronco have in a row? Against easier schedules

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 3:45pm

Are you guarantee a bowl win?

byukarl

12/3/22 3:46pm

I don’t see a big difference between 7-6 and 8-5. But take 2010 if you want

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 3:47pm

The schedule wasn’t that hard this year. Only Oregon was clearly superior.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:51pm

ND was very good. Liberty and Arkansas were good. ECU was decent.

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:55pm

Notre Dame lost to Marshall at home and Stanford. They aren’t very good.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:57pm

And they blew out clemson and NC and won 9 games. They are inconsistent but good

FieroCoug

12/3/22 4:09pm

8-4 Liberty was not good. They got smoked by a 5-6 New Mexico State.

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:58pm

After their coach told them he was out

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 3:59pm

So Liberty’s losses just don’t count?

ldssdl

12/3/22 4:00pm

The defense was bad this year and last. Pretty average before that outside of 21

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 4:05pm

Libertys season was over when freeze said he was gone. Libertys real season was

FieroCoug

12/3/22 4:10pm

What are you taking about, he didn’t announce until after their last game right?

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 4:16pm

He told them before the game he was taking the job when it was offered

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 4:17pm

😂😂😂

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 4:05pm

2013 was arguably the toughest SOS in independence.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:49pm

Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.

BlooCoog

12/3/22 3:47pm

For the talent we had returning…it was a complete collapse.

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:51pm

Nah. I complete collapse is a sub .500 record. Still not a good season given

BlooCoog

12/3/22 4:03pm

BYU was ranked #12 in the nation at one point, with a veteran QB getting NFL

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:52pm

RE: Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.

pegushin

12/3/22 4:00pm

Nearly every national prediction of BYU’s wins this year, recognizing talent

NYC and Japan

12/3/22 6:32pm

Yeah we need a reset there are more to come unfortunately

Big12Yfan

12/3/22 3:44pm

A 7-5 season is average, not bad. It’s exactly what we should have expected. Next year might be bad though…

WP17

12/3/22 3:44pm

Nope. It was really bad. With the talent we had returning we should’ve been so

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:47pm

If you think that then you looked at emotions and not legitimate metrics. We were very average.

WP17

12/3/22 3:55pm

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CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:48pm

There is some serious revisionist history going on here relative to returning

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:53pm

Expectations of who? Look at actual metrics and we were projected 7-5. Fans just assumed we would be better

WP17

12/3/22 3:54pm

Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country, and

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:56pm

RE: Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country,

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 3:58pm

Yeah- exactly. It shows how truly unobjective we are on this board to think 8 or 7 wins wasn’t expected

WP17

12/3/22 4:03pm

Even bloggers like Vanquish the Foe had them at 8-4

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 4:20pm

8-4 or 7-5 were what metrics predicted. We returned good offense and poor defensive talent.

WP17

12/3/22 4:00pm

Metrics suggesting that many of those teams would be better

byukarl

12/4/22 9:58am

With this schedule...it was worse than bad

Deleted

12/3/22 3:53pm

We won 7 games and lost 5? How is that worse than bad… with really poor talent on D. Sheesh.

WP17

12/3/22 3:56pm

I mean who is responsible for the d talent . Maybe not worse than bad. Bad given who we returned

Deleted

12/3/22 3:57pm

Yeah, recruiting needs to be better. But this was the record an unbiased analysis would say is reasonable pre-season.

WP17

12/3/22 4:02pm

One good coach can set a program up for years because recruiting and transfers

squints

12/3/22 3:45pm

For those rolling their eyes, we have already had our biggest recruits

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:46pm

I wish I had your optimism Chitownboy. 😂

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:49pm

Who was our biggest recruit to Decommit after the losses

Charles Darwin

12/3/22 4:00pm

RE: One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and

wildlandfireguy

12/3/22 3:52pm

Starters transferring is reason enough to be concerned.

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 3:55pm

I’ve seen one starter announce to transfer from every major team so far.

Boring

12/3/22 4:10pm

3 so far for us. Holker, Barrington, and reported that Wilgar is.

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 4:21pm

Asinine post. Seriously. Stay off the board.

Elvis

12/3/22 4:38pm

😂😂😂 Ok. 😂😂😂 So terrible years don’t set programs back? And what do you

CodeBlueCoug

12/3/22 6:28pm

What no one is factoring is what next year will look like sans Jaren and our

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

12/3/22 5:01pm

If Hall is gone then I fear some of our top receivers will leave via the portal.

ESPN’s final SP+ preseason rankings are out. Where do BYU, Utah and Utah State rank?

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