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Dec 4, 2022
9:58:38am

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Metrics suggesting that many of those teams would be better

Baylor was average, Boise State wasn't anything special, Utah State was garbage, Wyoming was garbage, Liberty turned out to be garbarge, Arkansas was garbage. East Carolina was better then expected, Stanford was garbage, Notre Dame was good but not great (actual under performed based on losing to Ohio State(exposed) and USC (exposed). We lost to a good Oregon team.

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byukarl

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One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and transfers.

12/3/22 3:42pm

This is the best class in the kalani era and this year we could get the average

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:44pm

The program has collapsed twice on his watch.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:44pm

Not even close to a collapse

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:44pm

Absolutely it was. BYU returned one of the most experienced teams. 9 wins was

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:46pm

Should have been a great year. Schedule wasn't a tough as it was made

777

12/3/22 3:48pm

9 wins was the expectation. We have a decent shot at getting 8.

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:53pm

Who was tougher than expected other than Oregon?

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:54pm

Liberty, ECU, USF probably after having close losses

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:56pm

Oh so by your criteria, if they beat BYU, they were tougher than expected? Or

12/3/22 4:07pm

Why do you keep making excuses for the staff?

TNT

12/3/22 6:02pm

How many 8-5 seasons did Bronco have in a row? Against easier schedules

12/3/22 3:45pm

Are you guarantee a bowl win?

byukarl

12/3/22 3:46pm

I don’t see a big difference between 7-6 and 8-5. But take 2010 if you want

12/3/22 3:47pm

The schedule wasn’t that hard this year. Only Oregon was clearly superior.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:51pm

ND was very good. Liberty and Arkansas were good. ECU was decent.

FieroCoug

12/3/22 3:55pm

Notre Dame lost to Marshall at home and Stanford. They aren’t very good.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:57pm

And they blew out clemson and NC and won 9 games. They are inconsistent but good

FieroCoug

12/3/22 4:09pm

8-4 Liberty was not good. They got smoked by a 5-6 New Mexico State.

12/3/22 3:58pm

After their coach told them he was out

12/3/22 3:59pm

So Liberty’s losses just don’t count?

ldssdl

12/3/22 4:00pm

The defense was bad this year and last. Pretty average before that outside of 21

12/3/22 4:05pm

Libertys season was over when freeze said he was gone. Libertys real season was

FieroCoug

12/3/22 4:10pm

What are you taking about, he didn’t announce until after their last game right?

12/3/22 4:16pm

He told them before the game he was taking the job when it was offered

12/3/22 4:17pm

😂😂😂

12/3/22 4:05pm

2013 was arguably the toughest SOS in independence.

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:49pm

Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.

BlooCoog

12/3/22 3:47pm

For the talent we had returning…it was a complete collapse.

12/3/22 3:51pm

Nah. I complete collapse is a sub .500 record. Still not a good season given

BlooCoog

12/3/22 4:03pm

BYU was ranked #12 in the nation at one point, with a veteran QB getting NFL

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:52pm

RE: Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.

pegushin

12/3/22 4:00pm

Nearly every national prediction of BYU’s wins this year, recognizing talent

NYC and Japan

12/3/22 6:32pm

Yeah we need a reset there are more to come unfortunately

Big12Yfan

12/3/22 3:44pm

A 7-5 season is average, not bad. It’s exactly what we should have expected. Next year might be bad though…

WP17

12/3/22 3:44pm

Nope. It was really bad. With the talent we had returning we should’ve been so

12/3/22 3:47pm

If you think that then you looked at emotions and not legitimate metrics. We were very average.

WP17

12/3/22 3:55pm

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12/3/22 3:48pm

There is some serious revisionist history going on here relative to returning

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:53pm

Expectations of who? Look at actual metrics and we were projected 7-5. Fans just assumed we would be better

WP17

12/3/22 3:54pm

Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country, and

ldssdl

12/3/22 3:56pm

RE: Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country,

12/3/22 3:58pm

Yeah- exactly. It shows how truly unobjective we are on this board to think 8 or 7 wins wasn’t expected

WP17

12/3/22 4:03pm

Even bloggers like Vanquish the Foe had them at 8-4

12/3/22 4:20pm

8-4 or 7-5 were what metrics predicted. We returned good offense and poor defensive talent.

WP17

12/3/22 4:00pm

Metrics suggesting that many of those teams would be better

byukarl

12/4/22 9:58am

With this schedule...it was worse than bad

Deleted

12/3/22 3:53pm

We won 7 games and lost 5? How is that worse than bad… with really poor talent on D. Sheesh.

WP17

12/3/22 3:56pm

I mean who is responsible for the d talent . Maybe not worse than bad. Bad given who we returned

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12/3/22 3:57pm

Yeah, recruiting needs to be better. But this was the record an unbiased analysis would say is reasonable pre-season.

WP17

12/3/22 4:02pm

One good coach can set a program up for years because recruiting and transfers

squints

12/3/22 3:45pm

For those rolling their eyes, we have already had our biggest recruits

12/3/22 3:46pm

I wish I had your optimism Chitownboy. 😂

12/3/22 3:49pm

Who was our biggest recruit to Decommit after the losses

12/3/22 4:00pm

RE: One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and

wildlandfireguy

12/3/22 3:52pm

Starters transferring is reason enough to be concerned.

12/3/22 3:55pm

I’ve seen one starter announce to transfer from every major team so far.

Boring

12/3/22 4:10pm

3 so far for us. Holker, Barrington, and reported that Wilgar is.

12/3/22 4:21pm

Asinine post. Seriously. Stay off the board.

Elvis

12/3/22 4:38pm

😂😂😂 Ok. 😂😂😂 So terrible years don’t set programs back? And what do you

12/3/22 6:28pm

What no one is factoring is what next year will look like sans Jaren and our

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

12/3/22 5:01pm

If Hall is gone then I fear some of our top receivers will leave via the portal.

12/3/22 6:32pm

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