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Dec 7, 2022
2:05:02pm

slatecoug Truly Addicted User

If BYU was so good at run blocking, why was BYU so abysmal at converting on 3rd and short and 4th and short this season?

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For those that want a new OL coach, I really doubt that is happening. Funk is all over the recruiting trail right now…

JOPE Resident Golf Fanatic

12/4/22 10:34pm

Doesn’t mean other changes can’t be made to support him

LaVellEdwardsStadium

12/4/22 10:35pm

If we keep funk our running production will continue to be an eye sore

UberDeek

12/4/22 10:37pm

I actually think the running backs were a much bigger issue than the OL.

TempeCoug

12/4/22 10:40pm

Exactly. Props

Lombardi

12/4/22 10:42pm

Brooks starting hitting holes with confidence right when the season ended

MaxxPower

12/4/22 10:51pm

Agree with that. Injuries didn’t help him either.

TempeCoug

12/4/22 10:58pm

They also changed the blocking scheme starting with the BSU game and having a

Kajdin

12/4/22 11:16pm

No. It qas the plays called and thus how thwy were blocked. It was all il and ar

CarolinaCoug

12/4/22 11:46pm

Was it an eyesore this year? Because aside from two games, BYU ran the ball pretty darn effectively…

JOPE

12/4/22 10:40pm

We were subpar running the ball against P5 competition.

slatecoug

12/4/22 11:52pm

Not really. We averaged 30 carries for 141 yds (4.6 yds/carry) against P5 competition. Not sub-par.

ManicBlue

12/5/22 12:08am

That's because you are throwing in the Stanford game that way skews our numbers higher. Let's talk real numbers

slatecoug

12/5/22 12:29am

RE: That's because you are throwing in the Stanford game that way skews our numbers higher. Let's talk real numbers

ManicBlue

12/5/22 1:17am

30 carries is plenty to figure out if you can effectively run the ball against your opponent.

slatecoug

12/5/22 1:28am

Brooks ran the ball fine, and he only got 10 carries. The offense was not the problem in the Ark game.

ManicBlue

12/5/22 1:42am

I guess you better throw out ND numbers as well, it doesn't fit your narrative

byublue42

12/5/22 8:28am

What are you talking about? I included the Stanford game.

slatecoug

12/6/22 12:15am

Thanks for sharing the stats that show 2 great performances, an above average

NYC and Japan

12/5/22 3:32pm

Less than 4 yards/carry against the #104 ranked rushing D is an above average performance. You set the bar really low.

slatecoug

12/6/22 12:19am

Nothing wrong with those numbers. Baylor and Oregon were just better teams with better DLs.

TheLoneCougar

12/6/22 5:53am

Definitely pleased! Especially when you include all of the awesome false starts the OL racked up this year.

slatecoug

12/7/22 12:49am

I'll reply to this again. #1 pass blocking and #23 run blocking OL in the country this past year.

TheLoneCougar

12/7/22 6:00am

But individual players have felt a drop off in training & technique improvement

Bald Eagle

12/7/22 7:07am

Those grades are based on individual grades from PFF, every single snap of every single game. The evaluation data

TheLoneCougar

12/7/22 8:54am

I'm curious where you are seeing an OL grade on PFF. I see a RB Blocking grade but that takes everyone into account

kimdaddy35

12/7/22 9:42am

PFF! PFF! PFF! You can't question PFF. All that matters is PFF!

slatecoug

12/7/22 2:05pm

The most respected site in grading players, but whatever. #23 run blocking team, yes there is room to improve. Also

TheLoneCougar

12/7/22 2:38pm

Except you take it as an end all and be all, when it's really only one part of much larger equation.

slatecoug

12/8/22 6:51pm

I have very clearly stated there are still concerns on the OL and they aren't perfect. They have been better than most

TheLoneCougar

12/8/22 6:56pm

Our zone running was suspect, looking more at it may have been a RB issue

kotacoug

12/4/22 10:49pm

You've got to explain yourself on this one when ever statistic says he did a better than average job.

TheLoneCougar

12/5/22 5:46am

Eye test, Barrington transfer.

UberDeek

12/5/22 9:23am

Was Barrington the starter the past few weeks? Was he playing his natural position here at BYU?

TheLoneCougar

12/5/22 9:51am

How does the run blocking rank of 25 work? We weren’t in the top 50 in total

rivercitycoug

12/4/22 10:40pm

Pro football focus rated our OL #25 in run blocking

JOPE

12/4/22 10:43pm

Thus the fact that RB coach could be replaced

Big12Yfan

12/4/22 10:43pm

Brooks got better as the year progressed. Points to good coaching IMO.

ManicBlue

12/4/22 10:44pm

The running wasn’t bad this year

JOPE

12/4/22 10:45pm

Plus brooks was dinged up for a lot of the season

kotacoug

12/4/22 11:00pm

Biggest issue our OL had this year was our power success rate. We were very poor getting

ManicBlue

12/4/22 10:43pm

The fourth down downplay calling was horrific

JOPE

12/4/22 10:46pm

Wasn't great but we still couldn't push the line for 2 yds even on QB sneaks. No excuse for that.

ManicBlue

12/4/22 10:53pm

*1 yard. Crazy the oc would try short yardage plays on those downs.

BYU '80

12/5/22 12:22am

When you consistently fail at converting on 3rd/4th and short when you run the

CameronG

12/5/22 10:00am

90% of the time those are runs. Everyone expects a run. He should have done a

BYU '80

12/5/22 10:02am

If they send more guys than there are blockers that's extremely difficult

CameronG

12/5/22 10:11am

We're not even winning the one on one blocking plays so don't lay it all on play calling.

ManicBlue

12/5/22 10:32am

Here's what you're missing when you make this assertion.

Eddie

12/5/22 2:33pm

Seems that technique dropped off from Grimes and Pugh/Mateos or was I seeing

Bald Eagle

12/4/22 10:44pm

I don't know enough about "technique" to know if it dropped off or not.

Eddie

12/4/22 10:49pm

Word on the street in Spokane is that the barrington can’t stand funk. The person I talked with didnt know why but

WashingtonCoug

12/4/22 10:58pm

Barrington is already in the portal

Schultz is back

12/4/22 11:05pm

heard complaints about teaching technique vs his tough style of review.

Turnpike Lane

12/4/22 11:08pm

Campbell would get plenty of PT next year if he stayed.

slatecoug

12/4/22 11:54pm

He’s heading to Baylor

Vernon Dozier

12/5/22 6:49am

If true, then big fail by our staff

pegushin

12/5/22 10:38am

Was there any truth to the rumor that Pugh was on the sidelines during the

Oompabluepaw

12/4/22 11:15pm

Turnpike Lane

12/4/22 11:18pm

Very bad news but explains why Barrington is transferring.

kimdaddy35

12/5/22 5:18am

Barrington wasn't going to be the future starter is my guess, exit interview feedback, so he left to find more time.

TheLoneCougar

12/5/22 5:48am

Barrington graded out as one of the top OL in the country last year according to PFF. So either he regressed with

kimdaddy35

12/5/22 8:17am

"For other reasons", about what I would have thought assuming you know what you're talking about.

TheLoneCougar

12/5/22 8:56am

Funk is the reason

kimdaddy35

12/5/22 12:43pm

I'll take it. One OL regressed and the rest did great, including the top pass blocking center in the country.

TheLoneCougar

12/5/22 2:06pm

Is that the one Funk benched mid-season?

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