IMO - for BYU, 2 losses or less in a season is what I'd call "great." 3 loss seasons I might call semi-great if there

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Jan 24, 2023
1:00:10pm

lightmann All-American

IMO - for BYU, 2 losses or less in a season is what I'd call "great." 3 loss seasons I might call semi-great if there

was one "great" win included in the season.

In the last 60 years BYU has had 13 seasons with 2 losses or less. Any season with 3 or more losses I wouldn't call "great." Very good, . . . but not great. But that's just me.

If you want to call 9.7-3 seasons "great" - fine.

I'll admit though that FieroCoug qualified his statement by saying - "by BYU standards."

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It would sure be nice if the football staff got the same support as Pope.

FieroCoug

1/23/23 10:14am

Two things here

Indy Coug

1/23/23 10:16am

Also, kalani had a bad year when he's supposed to have a good year.

1/23/23 12:52pm

We literally won more games than most predicted. CB is the only place

FieroCoug

1/23/23 1:46pm

Well...FB staff had 6 or 7 years of patience esp at DC

Tmoney1969

1/23/23 10:17am

Until 2020 the same thing could have been said of the football staff.

cougarfann888

1/23/23 10:18am

Kalani made progress from his 2nd year to 3rd year. Then he was average for a

FieroCoug

1/23/23 10:34am

I've learned in the last year that BYU fans are not ready for BYU to be in the Big12.

kccougar

1/23/23 10:22am

This year he has had his first RM's return from their missions. If Hall,

BYUheaven

1/23/23 10:23am

it is harder to have a cohesive offense when you insert a lot of new blood every

LeonMarek

1/23/23 10:27am

Umm…Kalani and nepotism with his cousin that harbored an atrocious defense

Idacoug

1/23/23 10:25am

The defense was average or close to average until this year.

FieroCoug

1/23/23 10:30am

No. He was ok the first 3 years but his scheme has been bad and did not attract

Idacoug

1/23/23 10:49am

Lol it wasn’t a big debacle worth firing him over. Ironically after those first

FieroCoug

1/23/23 11:04am

Yes it was. He put his cousin over byu football program. Knowing he sucked.

Idacoug

1/23/23 11:08am

Yet in those years he went 29-9.

FieroCoug

1/23/23 11:12am

And set back byu recruitment on defense

Idacoug

1/23/23 11:16am

Yet still won games….

FieroCoug

1/23/23 11:17am

29-9 isn’t “great.” By any measure.

lightmann

1/23/23 1:07pm

By BYU standards against those schedules it is. Our previous best season

FieroCoug

1/23/23 1:51pm

A 3 year average of 10-3 (well, 9.7-3) is better than Detmer's 3 seasons as a full time starter.

Indy Coug

1/23/23 2:40pm

IMO - for BYU, 2 losses or less in a season is what I'd call "great." 3 loss seasons I might call semi-great if there

lightmann

1/24/23 1:00pm

For 1 season I agree but for a 3 year stretch, the consistency is more

FieroCoug

1/24/23 1:12pm

We had a terrific offense. Defense, not so much.

1/23/23 1:19pm

Kalani and Tuiaki aren't cousins (eye roll) ...your credibility is taking a hit

Das_Countach

1/23/23 11:15am

🤦‍♂️ you apparently do not understand the Polynesian culture.

Idacoug

1/23/23 11:17am

And you’re probably a white dude from Idaho trying to fit in with poly culture

FieroCoug

1/23/23 11:18am

Not from Idaho. Just went to school there. I have many poly friends

Idacoug

1/23/23 11:57am

your credibility is further taking a hit with that comment

Das_Countach

1/23/23 11:18am

RE: your credibility is further taking a hit with that comment

Das_Countach

1/23/23 11:23am

I have no credibility. This is a bleeping sports message board. It’s all about

Idacoug

1/23/23 11:59am

Right. Tom Holmoe and President Worthen are all about nepotism and would 100% allow it under their watch.

1/23/23 12:56pm

The expectations were low for this team from the outset

CaliWG

1/23/23 10:30am

We've seen them play well at times - including most of the Gonzaga game - and

LV Mike

1/23/23 11:26am

The football staff has been allowed to stick around a lot longer than any power

SaintJeff

1/23/23 11:59am

John Wooden was 19-12 his 4th year at UCLA. I wonder why they stuck with him

Tygercoug

1/23/23 12:22pm

I’m not saying whether I think pope is the guy or not cause I don’t know.

FieroCoug

1/23/23 12:42pm

Early in the season the fire Pope crowd was beginning to make noise.

lightmann

1/23/23 1:03pm

Plenty of people have said they want Pope gone. Pope has never gone 4-9 or come close.

kimdaddy35

1/23/23 1:24pm

2 years NCAA tourney as 6 seed, 1 year NIT. This year is the worst season the

jreid191

1/23/23 3:33pm

Tuiaki is gone. Get over It.

BYUlv

1/23/23 5:12pm

I’m glad tuiaki is gone. I’m talking about kalani. Even the day after tuiaki

FieroCoug

1/23/23 5:16pm

Okay. I thought that you were just expressing some bitterness over the way CBers

BYUlv

1/23/23 5:41pm

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