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Jan 25, 2023
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ochobeeguy
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This is the most important change. Imagine how many Stockton would have had.
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Block stats should be subdivided into blocks that change possession vs. don't
rcbyufan
1/25/23 3:56pm
In football a PD (pass defensed) doesn't always change possession either.
FrontLineFan
1/25/23 3:57pm
It rarely does, not sure your point.
kimdaddy35
1/25/23 3:58pm
Its a similar type of play and isn't exclusive to basketball. A block is a block
FrontLineFan
1/25/23 4:01pm
No that would be a pass deflection in basketball.
kimdaddy35
1/25/23 4:05pm
Nah. Pass deflection in basketball isn't equivalent enough (Less impact).
FrontLineFan
1/25/23 4:10pm
It is literally the same thing. You'll notice both are called pass deflections.
kimdaddy35
1/25/23 4:26pm
The best equivalent is a forced fumble, but football tracks who recovers it
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 4:29pm
Considering there are any 7 times as many possessions in basketball, I don't
cougaman
1/25/23 4:38pm
Sure, I wasn’t making a 1:1 comparison and I just said best equivalent
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 4:47pm
A block is a block, and giving the other team a subsequent offensive rebound is
cougaman
1/25/23 5:26pm
I think it’s useful in evaluating the usefulness of the block
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 5:31pm
There's so few blocks, and such a high percentage of that is luck, that I don't
cougaman
1/25/23 5:41pm
You may be right, I just wouldn’t be against more info
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 6:34pm
I don't agree. The rebound stats accounts for the possession
cougaman
1/25/23 3:58pm
I'd rather see turnovers subdivided between live turnovers and dead ball.
JuicyJam
1/25/23 4:07pm
I’d also count assists that lead to free throws(as long as they make them)
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 4:37pm
This is the most important change. Imagine how many Stockton would have had.
ochobeeguy
1/25/23 4:42pm
I bet the free throw assists would especially help. Adding .5 for 3s would help
PHXSUNS31
1/25/23 4:48pm
About 10yrs ago the NBA had statisticians enter this for a season
fan_byu
1/25/23 5:28pm
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