A block is a block, and giving the other team a subsequent offensive rebound is

Jan 25, 2023
5:26:00pm

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the problem. The rebound stats will account for the change of possession. I don't really see any value in quantifying which blocks lead to a change of possession. Most of that is just luck anyways and not controlled by the player that gets the block

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Block stats should be subdivided into blocks that change possession vs. don't

rcbyufan

1/25/23 3:56pm

In football a PD (pass defensed) doesn't always change possession either.

FrontLineFan

1/25/23 3:57pm

It rarely does, not sure your point.

kimdaddy35

1/25/23 3:58pm

FrontLineFan

1/25/23 4:01pm

No that would be a pass deflection in basketball.

kimdaddy35

1/25/23 4:05pm

Nah. Pass deflection in basketball isn't equivalent enough (Less impact).

FrontLineFan

1/25/23 4:10pm

It is literally the same thing. You'll notice both are called pass deflections.

kimdaddy35

1/25/23 4:26pm

The best equivalent is a forced fumble, but football tracks who recovers it

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 4:29pm

Considering there are any 7 times as many possessions in basketball, I don't

cougaman

1/25/23 4:38pm

Sure, I wasn’t making a 1:1 comparison and I just said best equivalent

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 4:47pm

A block is a block, and giving the other team a subsequent offensive rebound is

cougaman

1/25/23 5:26pm

I think it’s useful in evaluating the usefulness of the block

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 5:31pm

There's so few blocks, and such a high percentage of that is luck, that I don't

cougaman

1/25/23 5:41pm

You may be right, I just wouldn’t be against more info

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 6:34pm

I don't agree. The rebound stats accounts for the possession

cougaman

1/25/23 3:58pm

I'd rather see turnovers subdivided between live turnovers and dead ball.

JuicyJam

1/25/23 4:07pm

I’d also count assists that lead to free throws(as long as they make them)

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 4:37pm

This is the most important change. Imagine how many Stockton would have had.

ochobeeguy

1/25/23 4:42pm

I bet the free throw assists would especially help. Adding .5 for 3s would help

PHXSUNS31

1/25/23 4:48pm

About 10yrs ago the NBA had statisticians enter this for a season

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