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Mar 21, 2023
3:51:54pm

PizzaPipeline Starter

They can leave the church but you cant leave them alone.

This is a perfect example of picking a fight where there doesnt need to be a fight. Saying people on Ex Mormon Reddit are using this to discredit the church is laughable. Your using a sad situation of wife being murdered to throw shade on people who have left the church. The people on Ex Mormon reddit have plenty of other ammo against church history to argue with then this news story.

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James Craig has got to be the dumbest dentists alive. To do the things he did and obviously thought he could get away

RdF3 Inactive user

3/20/23 12:30pm

The probable cause affidavit might be the most obvious thing I've ever read.

macdizzle

3/20/23 12:32pm

He didn’t want to pay alimony or give her 50% of his assets.

BlooCoog

3/20/23 12:33pm

Hey siri, what's 50% of my assets after I lose everything to murder charges?

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 12:52pm

He and Chad Daybell must have taken the same murder correspondence course.

ReiUrso

3/20/23 12:39pm

His wife asked him for a blessing 🙁 (Page 15)

bigbluecougar

3/20/23 1:00pm

May that request haunt him for the rest of his life.

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 1:13pm

It won't. Only a stone cold psychopath could do that.

ReiUrso

3/20/23 1:15pm

I’m having trouble even imagining getting there. That’s…. Diabolical.

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 1:26pm

I hope there's a special place in hell for guys like him. A hell within hell.

qwerew

3/20/23 6:38pm

That is so dang sad

Sandy Lyle

3/20/23 1:47pm

Is he of the faith?

WookieMonster

3/20/23 3:40pm

Yes. EQP

macdizzle

3/20/23 6:23pm

Where did you see that? I read warrant and only saw via text that someone handled the EQ assignment..

CLCougar

3/20/23 6:50pm

good thing he took care of the EQ assignment as he headed to jail for life.

qwerew

3/20/23 6:55pm

Wow

cougaman

3/20/23 1:03pm

Man that probable cause aff was quite the read. The guy is evil.

3/20/23 1:46pm

I feel bad for people who decide to stay in abusive relationships like that. Poor thing stayed with him

3/20/23 1:56pm

I’m friends with the sister mentioned in the affidavit and every other article.

Cactuskiller2.0

3/20/23 5:47pm

That’s good to hear. That poor family.

3/20/23 10:30pm

I hope he gets wrecked in prison

bluelands

3/20/23 2:00pm

Apparently it was/is a failing business...so...yeah. Pretty dumb.

m0resn0w

3/20/23 12:33pm

Flying his mistress into town while his wife was dying in the hospital was

AZ Coug

3/20/23 12:35pm

He told the people sending him the poison that the delay would be "inconvenient"

Socrates Johnson

3/20/23 2:10pm

This guy and Daybell were cut from the same cloth

JupiterJones

3/20/23 4:29pm

Flew a woman to Colorado while his wife was

DrBYU

3/20/23 12:35pm

Apparently he had successfully pulled the stunt a few weeks before,

Corn Pop

3/20/23 12:49pm

Orthodontist mistress is definitely going to be questioned

Jennerstein

3/20/23 2:16pm

They redacted the name in text but then put a screenshot of her name and

valleus

3/20/23 2:39pm

Ironically she's a devout Evangelical with a kid at Liberty.

Zooropa

3/21/23 8:04am

Bitter irony of the practice address as well

CLCougar

3/21/23 9:02am

"Sin makes you stupid, and it costs a lot too."

Sea Chicken

3/20/23 12:36pm

"Sin will take you farther than you want to go, keep you longer than you want to

BleedCougarBlue2

3/20/23 12:47pm

I feel bad for his kids. Mom is dead. Dad did it and will spend life in prison.

3/20/23 12:39pm

Par for the course. They're all criminals anyway.

FrontLineFan

3/20/23 12:45pm

Luckily the practice website is down so you can’t read the bio that mentions BYU

HansMoleman

3/20/23 12:48pm

Here you go:

gangbusters

3/20/23 12:50pm

Criminals are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Everyman

3/20/23 12:51pm

They found my poison search history?! but I used incognito mode!

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 12:53pm

He didn’t even use incognito mode or clear his history!

RdF3

3/20/23 12:56pm

Surprisingly enough, as you can see in the pictures of his screen

unsq312

3/20/23 12:57pm

He killed 5 hookers and now this?

Backcountry

3/20/23 12:55pm

no kidding, about time the law caught up to this guy.

qwerew

3/20/23 1:49pm

was it his son that got stuck in the storage shed?

qwerew

3/20/23 1:50pm

Yes. Hes responsible for a national treasure getting fired.

Backcountry

3/20/23 2:41pm

Wow. Angela even accused him of poisoning her the day before she checked into the hospital the final time. Her brother

3/20/23 12:58pm

She was sharing general conference talks with him and asking him for a blessing and talking about having faith

3/20/23 1:11pm

So he'd drugged her before? Yikes

JDBlue

3/20/23 1:15pm

Yes. Her best friend told the detective he had drugged Angela 5 years ago amidst other affairs

3/20/23 1:39pm

Depends on how you mean "drug," I guess.

ReiUrso

3/20/23 1:20pm

The only resolution I think should apply...

3/20/23 1:27pm

Yep, no more excuses "we can't get the drugs to carry out the execution"

bluelands

3/20/23 2:09pm

This scumbag managed to get chemicals that kill people. Seems like that argument shouldn’t be valid for the state

Mike Honcho

3/20/23 3:20pm

why can't they use the rest of the poison he used to kill his wife?

byublue42

3/20/23 3:29pm

Ugh, I hate seeing these type of stories...especially disgusting when they are

3/20/23 1:17pm

The good news is stastistically the chance anyone you go to church with is like

jmorrrrr

3/20/23 1:36pm

Completely agree. Still doesn't change how it makes me feel reading it though.

3/20/23 1:43pm

He’s so dumb the detective in the affidavit basically said “the digital forensic detective was out of the office so I

3/20/23 1:22pm

RE: He’s so dumb the detective in the affidavit basically said “the

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 1:27pm

It's amazing how people can be so smart in some ways and so stupid in other ways

qwerew

3/20/23 1:53pm

Isn't that a good way to get all of the computer evidence thrown out of a trial?

fredy

3/20/23 3:18pm

Why? The computer was seized with a warrant

3/20/23 3:39pm

I think they need to take an image of the HD before anyone does anything on it

fredy

3/20/23 4:00pm

A good/scummy lawyer could get that evidence thrown out if there wasn't an

VACOUGFAN

3/20/23 9:26pm

he clearly didn't watch enough episodes of Forensic Files

qwerew

3/20/23 1:55pm

How are people like this? How did she stay with him after he poisoned her 5 years earlier?

kimdaddy35

3/20/23 2:08pm

My son, missionary, is currently serving in Aurora. I think there are multiple

NYC and Japan

3/20/23 2:25pm

How about the Craig family.

whirl

3/20/23 3:31pm

Should have reversed 1st & last names and gone for dumbest sports caster around

Les IsMore

3/20/23 3:07pm

According to Reddit (grain of salt) he was the EQP in his ward. Yikes.

SpecialT

3/20/23 3:54pm

Yeah in the text thread in the probable cause, he talks about needing to get

macdizzle

3/20/23 4:00pm

Yeah I’m sure exmormon Reddit is using this as evidence that the church is

jmorrrrr

3/20/23 4:19pm

People here use mugshots of Ute fans to criticize all Utah fans

Medute

3/20/23 4:41pm

The difference perhaps is we call out our bad apples and shout them down

Cougarclaw

3/20/23 5:12pm

So do I have to call out all people arrested with mug shots or can it be implied

Medute

3/20/23 5:19pm

The other difference is 99% of Ute fans suck.

3/20/23 5:19pm

It’s not evidence the Church is wrong, but it’s a reminder why I don’t give a

Odysseus

3/20/23 6:12pm

Jesus called Judas as an apostle

AZ Coug

3/20/23 6:15pm

They can leave the church but you cant leave them alone.

PizzaPipeline

3/21/23 3:51pm

...and yet he is right...It is being used by antis

bigbluecougar

3/21/23 4:27pm

I do have a habit of lumping exmormon Reddit into one bucket and that’s not fair

jmorrrrr

3/21/23 4:40pm

Thats the nicest response I have gotten on Cougarbaord. Thank you

PizzaPipeline

3/21/23 5:04pm

I’m not that great of a guy. In Hogwarts Legacy I opted to learn and use all

jmorrrrr

3/21/23 5:42pm

This is true. I am in the same stake.

Spartacus81

3/20/23 5:30pm

Gosh, that kind of blows my mind that within 5 years ago he'd been guilty of multiple affairs with several different

CLCougar

3/20/23 7:56pm

unfortunately, often the main criteria for being "called" is someone just above

qwerew

3/20/23 5:39pm

At this point I'm not sure "dentist" is the most apt descriptor. I would suggest

Socrates Johnson

3/20/23 4:13pm

Another thing I noticed from the affidavit, he wanted her to keep the IV port in

Jennerstein

3/20/23 6:41pm

I noticed that too. Lambasting his friend for not trusting him. Whole episode is

valleus

3/20/23 6:46pm

And she came across super sweet and forgiving and caring in all her texts. The dude’s a monster

3/20/23 6:50pm

All the text screenshots make me so sick

Cactuskiller2.0

3/21/23 8:50am

Reminds me of that “doctor” from Pl Grove a few years ago that also killed

LeGrandBleu

3/20/23 11:32pm

Yep. Psychopath.

m0resn0w

3/20/23 11:48pm

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