Winning the 1966 NIT was not winning a natty; 1951 yes, 1966 no.

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Apr 24, 2024
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Soy Celeste

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Talked with a former player yesterday about Pope

gurt

Apr 24, 3:04pm

It’s a small miracle how that job fell into his lap. Seriously.

Idacoug

Apr 24, 3:08pm

It really is a small miracle, Idacoug.

BYUJoJo

Apr 24, 3:32pm

I'm actually hoping that Pope leaving ends up being

BYUJoJo

Apr 24, 3:34pm

Yes a win-win for everyone

wildwilderness

Apr 24, 5:08pm

I'd say a BIG miracle. Nobody would ever have believed that Kentucky would hire

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 6:12pm

Would be nice to know if he was with Pope at UVU or BYU

MwangoleCoug9

Apr 24, 3:15pm

UVU

gurt

Apr 24, 3:17pm

That makes sense

MwangoleCoug9

Apr 24, 3:19pm

Can confirm I've heard the same from a former UVU player my family knows

CameronG

Apr 24, 3:54pm

Wasn't it shared on an earlier post that UVU Admin and Staff thought much more highly of Madsen post-departure

CLCougar

Apr 24, 3:20pm

Have heard the same, though through a few degrees of separation

Captain Stubing

Apr 24, 3:48pm

I wish I would see less of these bitter posts

mobicurious

Apr 24, 3:17pm

I’m not bitter at all and I didn’t get the impression he was either

gurt

Apr 24, 3:18pm

Terms like Phony and 'use you up' are phrases a jilted lover uses

mobicurious

Apr 24, 3:21pm

Please share more of your experience. Were all curious now.

Henry45-70

Apr 24, 3:23pm

How many BYU coaches won NCAA titles as players?

mobicurious

Apr 24, 3:26pm

I was talking about jilted lovers 🤪

Henry45-70

Apr 24, 3:28pm

Who cares?

ochobeeguy

Apr 24, 4:53pm

You do enough to respond apparently

Henry45-70

Apr 24, 6:32pm

My first high school coach played with Pat Riley at UK under Adolf Rupp. I can't imagine a much worse coach.

No touching

Apr 24, 6:40pm

Can verify from personal experience 'phony', 'use you up', used by some jilted.

Ripliancum

Apr 24, 6:19pm

Well I can promise neither him nor I had those type relations with Pope

gurt

Apr 24, 3:25pm

How many people would you walk up to and call them a Phony to their face?

mobicurious

Apr 24, 3:33pm

As if that were any kind of argument that a person isn’t phony?

Y'sAsterisk

Apr 25, 3:00am

They are also terms used to describe people who are phony and use people up.

Y'sAsterisk

Apr 24, 6:10pm

His post didn't have a bitter tone to me.

CPAcoug87

Apr 24, 3:22pm

BYU is no longer a middle of the road type of team anymore. That is clear.

niqmadu

Apr 24, 3:22pm

How many NCAA tourney wins has BYU had?

mobicurious

Apr 24, 3:23pm

You might consider a Dale Carnegie course with your dubious attempt at winning friends here and influence to your way of

CLCougar

Apr 24, 3:55pm

I don’t think BYU has ever been ranked #1 in Men’s Basketball. I’m still frustrated with the UAB game in 1987.

Cougar Jazz Fan

Apr 24, 4:15pm

Me too on the UAB game ranked #2 at the time. Cougs won the Natty ranked #1 in 1966

CLCougar

Apr 24, 4:21pm

Winning the 1966 NIT was not winning a natty; 1951 yes, 1966 no.

Soy Celeste

Apr 24, 6:32pm

Agreed Texas Western won the "Natty" in 1966.

Les IsMore

Apr 24, 6:47pm

A movie was made about that team, “Glory Road.” Excellent movie!

Soy Celeste

Apr 24, 9:58pm

You're right, the #1 ranking it refers to is maybe our seed for the NIT tourney..

CLCougar

Apr 24, 8:37pm

I was there

gurt

Apr 24, 4:34pm

Same here. Had been in Huntsville on a job for a few weeks.

Les IsMore

Apr 24, 6:48pm

I was 10 😬

gurt

Apr 24, 7:36pm

Cheering for BYU is fun precisely because the deck is stacked against the Men's

mobicurious

Apr 24, 7:43pm

I appreciate the re-wording of what you had stated above, as in my view it initially came across pretty demeaning of BYU

CLCougar

Apr 24, 8:19pm

Let me put it in blunt terms

mobicurious

Apr 24, 8:24pm

Keep re-spinning, lol... you made some bad choices to make your point. And spending $$ doesn't translate to wins

CLCougar

Apr 24, 8:30pm

You are changing the topic. BYU is paying top dollar for coach. Destination $$

niqmadu

Apr 24, 4:12pm

That has nothing to do with the topic of the post.

DawgHaus

Apr 24, 6:17pm

Steve Cleveland (right before Dave Rose) left BYU for Fresno State.

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 6:14pm

"BYU is and always will be a middle of the road athletic program"

teancum

Apr 24, 4:10pm

I’d like to see more butter posts myself.

niqmadu

Apr 24, 4:14pm

Oh yeah? We'll show you . .

Ice King

Apr 24, 4:38pm

I agree w/you re bitter posts. I take umbrage re middle of the road

jlhazlewood

Apr 24, 5:37pm

Nice

Y'sAsterisk

Apr 24, 6:19pm

I agree with you, BYU performs extremely well outside of Men's revenue sports

mobicurious

Apr 24, 7:45pm

Define once in a generation overperformance. Most fans would say we've had those fairly regularly over the last 40 years

CLCougar

Apr 24, 8:35pm

This post sounds phony ??

BYUvermont

Apr 24, 3:46pm

Are you "spillin' tea?"

rockhound

Apr 24, 3:47pm

Smells more like coffee to me.

Henry45-70

Apr 24, 3:56pm

Pope is a good salesman who also happens to have a good vision

BigHouse Coug

Apr 24, 3:48pm

Pope: compartmentalizer, ambitious, smart, enthusiastic, calculating, hyperbolic

Forzaitalia

Apr 24, 4:12pm

This is really good - kudos

Ice King

Apr 24, 4:46pm

My take on Pope

Chicago Cougar

Apr 24, 4:14pm

Anyone else recall Pope ripping off his suit to show his UK uniform underneath?

Ice King

Apr 24, 4:50pm

That was easy - found it

Ice King

Apr 24, 4:53pm

Whoa. That was embarrassing.

Y'sAsterisk

Apr 24, 6:30pm

I don't know. I never got the impression that he wasn't solidly behind being

AF_Puma

Apr 24, 9:14pm

did this player see significant minutes?

aaronmania

Apr 24, 4:59pm

Yes. I think 3 year player

gurt

Apr 24, 5:00pm

Was this player a starter?????

Huck

Apr 24, 5:12pm

Yes

gurt

Apr 24, 5:54pm

If that's true Pope told this player his ultimate goal was to get to Kentucky

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 6:06pm

This whole post is not credible

Croweater

Apr 24, 6:17pm

Feel free to BM me

gurt

Apr 24, 6:33pm

If true I say good for Pope. He improved each team on the way up. UK knows they

Ripliancum

Apr 24, 6:36pm

So Pope is ambitious and had a goal to get his dream job

davidmj10

Apr 24, 6:54pm

It's OK to use BYU to get his dream job, it's just the way he left is classless.

GoodGuyGary1

Apr 24, 8:56pm

I get that he didn’t send a thank you note what else was classless

davidmj10

Apr 24, 10:02pm

What else do you need?

GoodGuyGary1

Apr 24, 10:07pm

I guess we have a different definition of classless.

davidmj10

Apr 24, 10:10pm

This is just gossip -

BYUFootballRocks1

Apr 24, 10:00pm

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