Do those that overburden the healthcare system care?

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May 15, 2024
9:14:31pm

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Chronic ailments cost our system more than trillion dollars per year.

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Archaea

Bio page: Archaea
Joined: Mar 28, 2001
Last login: May 31, 2024
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Messages

Author

Time

Regarding obesity being genetic

Black Diamond Bay All-American

May 15, 7:54pm

I can believe that genetics make it harder for some to lose weight,

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 7:58pm

Yes, I love it when a person says that despite consuming less calories than they

Ozymandias

May 15, 8:01pm

If you've ever seen the horrible photos of Nazi concentration camps, you

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 8:04pm

Plenty of people starved in those camps. Poor example.

Yiowa

May 15, 8:09pm

Disagree. It shows that there was no medical condition that kept a person fat.

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 8:17pm

I don’t think anyone is really wondering whether fat people can die thin.

Yiowa

May 15, 8:32pm

False dichotomy. It's not as if as soon as fat people become thin, they die.

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 8:35pm

If that body type was the standard of “health” how difficult would it be to

Yiowa

May 15, 8:58pm

I'm saying that between obesity and becoming rail thin due to calorie

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 9:02pm

I mostly agree with you there. 99.9% of people can achieve a sustainable healthy

Yiowa

May 15, 9:20pm

Well when you actually are forced to not eat. There are medical and psychologic

kotacoug

May 15, 8:36pm

Both obesity and alcoholism can be overcome, either voluntarily or

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 8:47pm

The first person to bring up Nazis in an argument loses the argument.

ochobeeguy

May 15, 8:33pm

Swap Nazi camps with North Korean ones. Is that better?

Cougar Junkie

May 15, 8:43pm

My wife operates at a calorie deficit all the time and reaches a point where she

gwalker

May 15, 8:11pm

Here is the secret. She isn’t operating at a 350 calorie deficit. Her metabolism

Ozymandias

May 15, 8:18pm

That could well be. She isn’t gluttonous by any means. Often eats around 1000

gwalker

May 15, 8:20pm

Her metabolism may be slow because she is starving herself. She really

kotacoug

May 15, 9:07pm

Be sure her calorie intake includes protein daily.

Bullrider

May 15, 9:11pm

For women I think the oft overlooked culprit to stubborn weight is birth control. Messing with your hormones will

Black Diamond Bay

May 15, 8:24pm

Hate to break it to you but 350 x7 will never equal a 1 lb fat loss. You would

kotacoug

May 15, 8:39pm

That’s right. I forgot the number. But she’s clearly doing that if her

gwalker

May 15, 8:55pm

I agree. Like I said, I'm married to a reformed fatty, from a fat family and he's managed it.

Black Diamond Bay

May 15, 8:05pm

Anyone who thinks there is no genetic component to obesity also thinks the earth

TO11

May 15, 8:00pm

I think people have an issue when others say nothing can be done because it’s

Longseason

May 15, 8:05pm

Of course your metabolism is connected to your genetics, but nobody has to be

Ozymandias

May 15, 8:27pm

Let’s not go binary on us.

Archaea

May 15, 8:31pm

I didn't believe that it is learned. I think controlling it is a learned behavior and so we trying to instill good

Black Diamond Bay

May 15, 8:44pm

Learned is a more specialized sense.

Archaea

May 15, 9:20pm

This is me, I have two settings hungry and stuffed.

Cosmodiar

May 15, 8:00pm

Why do some people feel it necessary to belittle very sad people about their

Bullrider

May 15, 8:32pm

Because they don't struggle, thus it is easy for everyone.

ochobeeguy

May 15, 8:36pm

Belittle? I believe some worry about the cost to our already

Archaea

May 15, 8:37pm

What you say is true but does little to help the obese. Why don’t you prove

Bullrider

May 15, 8:50pm

Do those that overburden the healthcare system care?

Archaea

May 15, 9:14pm

I'm sorry that you feel belittled, but I'm not really seeing where that happened.

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