It's not just a Pope thing, it's a BYU thing.

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Mar 22, 2024
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I think BYU's issue on 'the big stage' is mainly psychological

1984coug

Mar 22, 9:14am

That's a bunch of hooey

TNT

Mar 22, 9:15am

(sorry for the harsh language)

TNT

Mar 22, 9:15am

I think hooey is a pretty good descriptor of that

Lifer

Mar 22, 9:16am

RE: That's a bunch of hooey

SinkingQuffa

Mar 22, 9:30am

Ha. Miami Vice was a good show

TNT

Mar 22, 9:31am

RE: Ha. Miami Vice was a good show

SinkingQuffa

Mar 22, 9:38am

Bwahahahahaha.......TNT vaguely remembers that episode

TNT

Mar 22, 9:49am

That's better than me. I can remember he got in a show or two — but didn't think that's where that came from.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 22, 10:07am

Wait, so a church that tells all men their priesthood DUTY is to stand and bear

runnincoug

Mar 22, 9:17am

Tell this to all the scout masters and ym leaders telling kids they are going

1984coug

Mar 22, 9:24am

I've never met a scoutmaster, youth leader, or bishop like that.

runnincoug

Mar 22, 9:41am

Wow - that was a bizarre topic correlation.

BYUDM93

Mar 22, 10:33am

Maybe he's talking about this kind of emotion and not the kind you referenced?

Undefeated

Mar 22, 9:40am

Nope. We need nba talent or defense first mentality

Idacoug

Mar 22, 9:22am

There are plenty of teams who win in the NCAA tournament without this

CameronG

Mar 22, 9:40am

It’s not full proof. But byu needs this according to their history.

Idacoug

Mar 22, 9:47am

yeah, I dont buy that assessment of it being a result of "LDS culture"

LeonMarek

Mar 22, 9:24am

what? Turn the other cheek is totally a part of LDS Culture with a long..

icecougar

Mar 22, 12:14pm

Great points.

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 12:41pm

It's athleticism.

maYbe

Mar 22, 9:28am

Oakland must be vastly superior than Kentucky...

1984coug

Mar 22, 9:28am

Anybody can get lucky in one game. BYU's problem has lasted too long for that.

maYbe

Mar 22, 9:33am

What does that even mean? Did BYU win 23 games this year on luck?

Team Chaos

Mar 22, 9:35am

It's like the Jazz with Don and Gobert. Great regular season but terrible playof

maYbe

Mar 22, 9:40am

No, it's not. BYU playing the 11-seed, 6th-place A-10 team is not like two...

Team Chaos

Mar 22, 9:43am

Can't just athleticism, but that is certainly a factor in general. We played and beat lots of teams that were as

DrBYU

Mar 22, 9:37am

This. We struggle against pressure and we can’t pressure other teams.

texbird33

Mar 22, 9:47am

It's a coaching and preparation issue. Pope has struggled immensely in post-seas

Team Chaos

Mar 22, 9:30am

It's not just a Pope thing, it's a BYU thing.

foofcoug

Mar 22, 9:34am

I can't disagree with that. I'm just saying he has fallen into the same problem.

Team Chaos

Mar 22, 9:35am

Right, when 3/4 of BYU's NCAA wins in the last 30 ish years are from Jimmer

1984coug

Mar 22, 9:43am

I agree with you, Team Chaos.

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 12:37pm

What about Islamic culture?

Great38

Mar 22, 9:37am

Missions and culture tend to not bring out a killer mentality.

FT487

Mar 22, 9:38am

if anything it dulls it considerably

icecougar

Mar 22, 12:21pm

You have to have strong guard play in the Tournament

TNT

Mar 22, 9:49am

BYU by nature has a high floor but a low ceiling. That explains why we very

Lord Jim

Mar 22, 9:52am

A lot of people in our culture grow up soft.

SLC-Durham

Mar 22, 10:06am

athleticism is a big thing, but yes, they always come out scared in big spots

Beggar

Mar 22, 10:06am

I think it's a combination of a lot of things but a lot of it is just mental

CameronG

Mar 22, 10:13am

I totally agree with you, CameronG. Especially these points:

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 12:52pm

I think Pope treated the game like a regular game. He played the same rotations

Benfica1

Mar 22, 10:30am

To me, sometimes Pope gets in a rut, saying, "This is what we are,

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 1:00pm

I think it has to do with toughness.

Big-Q

Mar 22, 10:45am

For sure it’s mental. Can’t wilt on the big stage. Sports psychology could help.

BlooCoug

Mar 22, 11:15am

Should have started Jaxon over Knell to start faster

B Blue

Mar 22, 11:49am

Softness comes from coaching. And that doesn't mean BYU coaches necessarily, but when has Quincy Lewis ever

mokelembembe

Mar 22, 12:08pm

Great points about coaching, mokelembembe.

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 1:05pm

LDS Culture...we're too nice. If someone mean takes our coat, we give them our..

icecougar

Mar 22, 12:20pm

I remember 7 or 8 yrs ago we had 3 teams playing in National Championships on...

icecougar

Mar 22, 12:37pm

Great examples, icecougar. Do you think coaching contributed

BYUJoJo

Mar 22, 1:09pm

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