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Jan 8, 2013
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BluePete
You assume that BYU's athletes NEVER talk with athletes from other schools...
It's a fallacy to assume that any athlete doesn't have friends in other programs, doesn't talk or mingle with other athletes etc.
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I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin
Dan2
1/8/13 7:22am
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JimmyZ
1/8/13 7:25am
Since Bronco isn't going to look the other way while his players take steroids
BYUtiful
1/8/13 10:12am
Its tough to take steroids with random NCAA drug tests
Cougarlove
1/8/13 2:42pm
Actually, it's not tough at all; and tests are anything but "random"
BYUtiful
1/9/13 12:46am
I wondered about this during the championship game where one team was bigger,
tony
1/9/13 2:03am
You know he won't.
WJCougar
1/8/13 7:27am
What do you think Bronco has been doing since the bowl game?
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:27am
He's been in Hawaii.
checoug
1/8/13 7:28am
And Saban doesn't take vacations?
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:30am
My folks have a home by Nick Saban's lake house, we see him there all the
Banjo
1/8/13 7:43am
Saban had enough time for a cameo appearance
Seasider
1/8/13 8:34am
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JimmyZ
1/8/13 7:29am
In other words, nobody has a clue.
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:30am
He has probably been getting home be three to get a break from having to stay
gwill
1/8/13 7:40am
Agree with everything you said
checoug
1/8/13 7:28am
Even if he puts in Sabin like effort....
WJCougar
1/8/13 7:29am
But it could have gotten us to a BCS bowl by now.
mr_thekid
1/8/13 2:31pm
You know, its not the time and effort. You know that right?
bald man
1/8/13 7:31am
Seriously?
checoug
1/8/13 7:34am
Can you sit there and with a straight face tell me that a professional
bald man
1/8/13 7:47am
He has publicly said it
checoug
1/8/13 7:58am
Everytime the anti bronco cite some quote its always out of context and
bald man
1/8/13 8:02am
This. Bronco quotes get stretched to the point of incomprehension.
TexasCoug
1/8/13 8:30am
Then answer this. Why would Bronco make such a statement at all?
CougFanInWA
1/8/13 11:43am
Why did Lou Holtz always poor mouth his own team?
TexasCoug
1/8/13 11:52am
I think you mean "can't understand reality."
CougFanInWA
1/8/13 11:58am
a pig will always find mud to wallow in.
bald man
1/8/13 11:59am
Re-read what I said
checoug
1/8/13 8:36am
He trusted Doman, it turns out he shouldn't. Thus Doman is gone.
bald man
1/8/13 8:51am
and add to your comment ...
ManicBlue
1/8/13 9:08am
So Bronco just threw that out there
checoug
1/8/13 9:14am
He has his reasons ... you just don't understand them
ManicBlue
1/8/13 9:21am
Ding! Ding! Ding!
BluePete
1/8/13 9:39am
Oh brother
checoug
1/8/13 12:47pm
BYU can't get the players to be NC contenders... the end.
FierceArc
1/8/13 9:04am
They did in 1984!
ilnati
1/8/13 10:15am
And almost did it again in '96 and '01.
BluePete
1/8/13 10:21am
Nope... those years they would not have gone. Did you forget that in '96 they
FierceArc
1/8/13 9:59pm
Its called the Perfect Storm ! > And it is possible !
BYU DUDE 1984
1/8/13 10:46am
Remember our loss to Air Force in 2010? We had more talented players, but they
BabyOx
1/8/13 4:43pm
Mostly it means having Alabama's players.
TexasCoug
1/8/13 7:28am
I would mostly agree
checoug
1/8/13 7:30am
Bronco could do better... He chooses not to.
kotacoug
1/8/13 7:31am
More time doesn't necessarily = better
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:33am
I think it's safe to say that the program is NO WHERE close to the point
kotacoug
1/8/13 7:44am
Baloney!
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:46am
you are delusional....you can not replace reps with efficiency no matter
kotacoug
1/8/13 7:51am
And how many reps does BYU put in compared to other teams?
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 7:55am
That is so wrong. If you don't have the coaching chops to begin with, more time
bald man
1/8/13 7:54am
+1
doubled1981
1/8/13 12:00pm
I disagree. I think he is doing the BEST he knows how
WhiteKnight
1/8/13 7:54am
Along with 119 other D-1 teams apparently...
TexasCoug
1/8/13 8:24am
Exactly! The sheer volume of fantastic players at Alabama makes a huge
bald man
1/8/13 7:32am
Conversely, Alabama has a dozen or more players youve never heard
RalphWiggam
1/8/13 7:45am
Yes but you have to start somewhere. Success breeds success
Dan2
1/8/13 7:45am
+1
kotacoug
1/8/13 8:12am
Bronco has said one of his criteria to recruiting is level of success
bald man
1/8/13 8:15am
Maybe offense, but defense?? Defense has risen since Bronco took over DC duties
FierceArc
1/8/13 9:08am
correct
Burninator
1/8/13 8:14am
give me a break
chazen
1/8/13 9:03am
sorry. was intended as response to main post
chazen
1/8/13 9:23am
4-star recruits as a baseline would be nice.
sheriffcreg
1/8/13 10:36am
it amazes me how you guys keep think Bronco is an idiot or incompetent.
bald man
1/8/13 7:29am
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JimmyZ
1/8/13 7:30am
He already does mix with the Pharisees and Sadducees of cougar club.
bald man
1/8/13 7:31am
No he doesn't. His usual is to deliver his speech, try to avoid questions after
JamesDean
1/8/13 7:53am
oh, I'm never there, so I wouldn't know.
bald man
1/8/13 8:11am
No he surfs actual waves
checoug
1/8/13 7:32am
Who cares. Volume of time is not the determining factor on success.
bald man
1/8/13 7:33am
and he cares about it a whole lot more than we do.
Belboz
1/8/13 7:38am
They start off with the delusion that all of BYU's players are another Ziggy
BluePete
1/8/13 7:39am
Do you think BYU gets everything they possibly can out of players
kotacoug
1/8/13 7:48am
thus we are seeing coaching changes, and conditioning changes.
bald man
1/8/13 7:50am
Currently, not on offense. BYU has historically used a combination of
BluePete
1/8/13 8:01am
You nailed it. I wished they used more practice time, but gee, we
bald man
1/8/13 7:49am
Well now you're bringing in the competency of our coaches which I agree with you
kotacoug
1/8/13 8:11am
Practice doesn't make perfect. It just makes it permanent.
bald man
1/8/13 8:12am
That makes perfect sense why he had fewer pactices if he already
BluePete
1/8/13 8:26am
but spending more time doing something right.... helps
kotacoug
1/8/13 8:36am
Which is why his D is so good. Unfortunately, the O just wasn't
bald man
1/8/13 8:38am
I am just as amazed that fans can look at the last 3 years and not doubt BM
byutx
1/8/13 8:31am
I'm not a Bronco can do no wrong guy. He made mistakes in hiring.
bald man
1/8/13 8:37am
You can respect the man, which I question, but you can't respect recent results
byutx
1/8/13 8:42am
Indeed, thus Bronco getting a new OC. The offense has stunk. He knows it.
bald man
1/8/13 8:51am
LOI day is just 4 weeks away, so of course they will start working
Indy Coug
1/8/13 7:39am
Saban only used 12 of his 15 allowed practices for ND...
TheKing
1/8/13 8:06am
Link? If true, that needs to be its own thread.
SausageKingOfChicago
1/8/13 8:08am
Here you go
TheKing
1/8/13 8:12am
There was actually some criticism before the game about that.
TexasCoug
1/8/13 8:23am
LOL. That. Is. Awesome. So much for half of CB's favorite Bronco criticism
WhiteKnight
1/8/13 8:13am
Actually no - this only confirms the criticism
OGSuperfan
1/8/13 8:25am
We won our bowl game too.
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 8:47am
I wasn't talking JUST the practices leading up to the bowl game
OGSuperfan
1/8/13 1:40pm
examples of basic X's and O's problems?
WhiteKnight
1/8/13 4:47pm
Really need a defininition of X's and O's?
OGSuperfan
1/9/13 10:12am
How the original post is leading potd and this one isn't is vintage cougarboard
palangi
1/8/13 8:57am
Well said. It's the reason why, IMO, college coaches don't make good nfl coaches
macaroni
1/8/13 9:52am
Bronco wasn't watching last night, but he seems to do pretty well on D..
SausageKingOfChicago
1/8/13 8:07am
u hope Bronco makes more cliche coaching statements about getting back to work?
Ft Worth Cougar
1/8/13 8:16am
I generally agree with this statement
SausageKingOfChicago
1/8/13 8:23am
Ha, Ha, that's funny. Yeah, I came into work early this morning and told my
DapperDave
1/8/13 9:12am
Why do you think the coaches and players are doing nothing?
pygmalion
1/8/13 8:33am
Don't confuse the uneducated with education. They hate Bronco...
TexasCoug
1/8/13 8:35am
Pwned!
Indy Coug
1/8/13 8:36am
Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work
byutx
1/8/13 8:38am
Keep moving those goalposts around
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 8:46am
RE: Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work
pygmalion
1/8/13 8:55am
Win more. And stop saying stupid stuff.
byutx
1/8/13 9:06am
Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid.
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 9:28am
+ A billion
TexasCoug
1/8/13 9:31am
RE: Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid.
ManicBlue
1/8/13 9:57am
Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps
byutx
1/8/13 10:36am
RE: Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps
ManicBlue
1/8/13 10:40am
Yours was a Bronco quote. I was referring to Bronco
byutx
1/8/13 10:51am
ah .. right. That's why I modified my post. Thanks.
ManicBlue
1/8/13 10:58am
You really don't think BM has said stupid things?
byutx
1/8/13 10:35am
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BluePete
1/8/13 10:39am
Perhaps, but they become infinitely stupider once run through the CB filter
Freddie Cougar
1/8/13 12:05pm
The stupid things Bronco says I've heard directly from him on KSL
byutx
1/8/13 12:20pm
I have first hand knowledge of a player being in Hawaii
donnerstag
1/8/13 10:43am
What? This is an outrage! Players shouldn't be allowed to go to Hawaii with a
DapperDave
1/8/13 11:00am
I think he should lose his scholarship
kkf
1/8/13 11:02am
nope
pygmalion
1/8/13 11:03am
It sounds like you are drawing conclusions with little evidence to support them
donnerstag
1/8/13 11:17am
I dunno....
pygmalion
1/8/13 11:24am
That gives you just one point of reference
donnerstag
1/8/13 11:38am
You assume that BYU's athletes NEVER talk with athletes from other schools...
BluePete
1/8/13 11:43am
I was a track athlete at BYU
donnerstag
1/8/13 11:50am
Plenty of "immediate family" members on various BYU teams here...
BluePete
1/8/13 11:54am
So then you can compare and contrast the programs of 2-3 schools
donnerstag
1/8/13 11:58am
Get right on that...run fast like a bunny and prove a CBer's opinion wrong.
BluePete
1/8/13 12:04pm
My intent wasn't to prove right or wrong
donnerstag
1/8/13 12:13pm
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DapperDave
1/8/13 12:03pm
You came up with this conclusion how?
donnerstag
1/8/13 12:07pm
Of course. Step 1 - I read your posts. Step 2 - There is no step 2!
DapperDave
1/8/13 12:13pm
You're an irrational thinker
donnerstag
1/8/13 12:15pm
It's true, yet I can still spot from a mile away an overinvested fan
DapperDave
1/8/13 12:22pm
You know what, my bad, I'm not an irrational thinker, just a stupid one. I
DapperDave
1/8/13 12:47pm
No worries;)
donnerstag
1/8/13 1:47pm
I never said BYU football works harder
pygmalion
1/8/13 12:10pm
You are casting your pearls before swine...
TexasCoug
1/8/13 12:18pm
I know
pygmalion
1/8/13 12:27pm
I do it all the time...just from a common sense perspective, not an insider...
TexasCoug
1/8/13 12:33pm
LOL. I haven't followed this whole thread because it's way too long.
mr_thekid
1/8/13 2:45pm
Even atheists use that figure of speech.
TexasCoug
1/8/13 2:59pm
Nice try, I'm an "out-of-stater."
mr_thekid
1/8/13 4:32pm
Then you have probably heard it as well.
TexasCoug
1/8/13 4:44pm
I appreciate the post
donnerstag
1/8/13 12:26pm
yes, everyone shows up
pygmalion
1/8/13 12:43pm
good to hear
donnerstag
1/8/13 12:48pm
Tell us about your point of reference.
Ssebo
1/8/13 1:51pm
I already did. You missed it.
donnerstag
1/8/13 1:57pm
Let me play devil's advocate:
DapperDave
1/8/13 9:00am
^^^A Fantastic Post^^^
grosven
1/8/13 11:48am
Yes great post
Cougarlove
1/8/13 4:11pm
BYU isn't going to be elite Dan2. Accept it.
FierceArc
1/8/13 9:03am
Why do you think ND was just hoping and praying and not practicing?
Florwood
1/8/13 9:07am
Saban also kept referring to his UNIVERSITY as an organization
fish_tacos
1/8/13 9:34am
What do you expect him to say?
HiLife
1/8/13 10:06am
couldn't agree more
fish_tacos
1/8/13 10:24am
I wonder if CB will take a hint from Sabin
Magyar_CougAZ
1/8/13 9:47am
The assumptions made here are astounding. How stupid do you think
PhilPete
1/8/13 10:08am
I don't think BM is stupid. I think he's lacking in smarts, humility. But people
byutx
1/8/13 10:37am
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donnerstag
1/8/13 10:38am
I think the fact Alabama gets all the best players helps Sabans cause
kkf
1/8/13 10:44am
This post sucks.
grosven
1/8/13 11:38am
"Praying doesn't cut it. Ask Notre Dame" LOL
bluegato
1/8/13 12:35pm
They aren't all way over 300 pounds
CoopDizz
1/8/13 12:37pm
This is why I love Nick Saban
StalwartBraveTrue
1/8/13 2:05pm
RE: I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin
JCBYU
1/8/13 3:07pm
Good call. Remember the Jones v. McCarron "fight"?
BabyOx
1/8/13 4:38pm
Nominated
checoug
1/8/13 10:27pm
Good post
Heinz57
1/9/13 10:30am
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