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Jan 8, 2013 - 8:06am

TheKing

Saban only used 12 of his 15 allowed practices for ND...

It's mostly about the players, and Saban's biggest differentiator is what he does on LOI day. That makes a much bigger difference in his program's results than all the other things he does combined.

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I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin

Dan2

Jan 8, 07:22am

Solid post Dan (nm)

JimmyZ

Jan 8, 07:25am

Since Bronco isn't going to look the other way while his players take steroids

Jan 8, 10:12am

Its tough to take steroids with random NCAA drug tests

Jan 8, 02:42pm

Actually, it's not tough at all; and tests are anything but "random"

Jan 9, 12:46am

I wondered about this during the championship game where one team was bigger,

tony

Jan 9, 02:03am

What do you think Bronco has been doing since the bowl game? (nm)

Jan 8, 07:27am

He's been in Hawaii. (nm)

checoug

Jan 8, 07:28am

And Saban doesn't take vacations?

Jan 8, 07:30am

My folks have a home by Nick Saban's lake house, we see him there all the

Banjo

Jan 8, 07:43am

Saban had enough time for a cameo appearance

Jan 8, 08:34am

Working on a mean power point on the top 4 priorities

JimmyZ

Jan 8, 07:29am

In other words, nobody has a clue. (nm)

Jan 8, 07:30am

He has probably been getting home be three to get a break from having to stay (short)

gwill

Jan 8, 07:40am

Agree with everything you said

checoug

Jan 8, 07:28am

You know, its not the time and effort. You know that right?

Jan 8, 07:31am

Seriously?

checoug

Jan 8, 07:34am

Can you sit there and with a straight face tell me that a professional

Jan 8, 07:47am

He has publicly said it

checoug

Jan 8, 07:58am

Everytime the anti bronco cite some quote its always out of context and

Jan 8, 08:02am

This. Bronco quotes get stretched to the point of incomprehension.

Jan 8, 08:30am

Then answer this. Why would Bronco make such a statement at all?

Jan 8, 11:43am

Why did Lou Holtz always poor mouth his own team?

Jan 8, 11:52am

I think you mean "can't understand reality."

Jan 8, 11:58am

a pig will always find mud to wallow in. (nm)

Jan 8, 11:59am

Re-read what I said

checoug

Jan 8, 08:36am

He trusted Doman, it turns out he shouldn't. Thus Doman is gone. (nm)

Jan 8, 08:51am

and add to your comment ...

Jan 8, 09:08am

So Bronco just threw that out there (short)

checoug

Jan 8, 09:14am

He has his reasons ... you just don't understand them

Jan 8, 09:21am

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Jan 8, 09:39am

Oh brother

checoug

Jan 8, 12:47pm

BYU can't get the players to be NC contenders... the end. (nm)

Jan 8, 09:04am

They did in 1984! (nm)

ilnati

Jan 8, 10:15am

And almost did it again in '96 and '01. (nm)

Jan 8, 10:21am

Nope... those years they would not have gone. Did you forget that in '96 they

Jan 8, 09:59pm

Its called the Perfect Storm ! > And it is possible ! (nm)

Jan 8, 10:46am

Remember our loss to Air Force in 2010? We had more talented players, but they

BabyOx

Jan 8, 04:43pm

Mostly it means having Alabama's players.

Jan 8, 07:28am

I would mostly agree

checoug

Jan 8, 07:30am

Bronco could do better... He chooses not to. (nm)

Jan 8, 07:31am

More time doesn't necessarily = better

Jan 8, 07:33am

I think it's safe to say that the program is NO WHERE close to the point

Jan 8, 07:44am

Baloney! (nm)

Jan 8, 07:46am

you are delusional....you can not replace reps with efficiency no matter

Jan 8, 07:51am

And how many reps does BYU put in compared to other teams?

Jan 8, 07:55am

That is so wrong. If you don't have the coaching chops to begin with, more time

Jan 8, 07:54am

+1 (nm)

Jan 8, 12:00pm

I disagree. I think he is doing the BEST he knows how

Jan 8, 07:54am

Along with 119 other D-1 teams apparently... (nm)

Jan 8, 08:24am

Exactly! The sheer volume of fantastic players at Alabama makes a huge (short)

Jan 8, 07:32am

Conversely, Alabama has a dozen or more players youve never heard (short)

Jan 8, 07:45am

Yes but you have to start somewhere. Success breeds success

Dan2

Jan 8, 07:45am

+1 (nm)

Jan 8, 08:12am

Bronco has said one of his criteria to recruiting is level of success

Jan 8, 08:15am

Maybe offense, but defense?? Defense has risen since Bronco took over DC duties

Jan 8, 09:08am

correct (nm)

Jan 8, 08:14am

give me a break (nm)

chazen

Jan 8, 09:03am

sorry. was intended as response to main post (nm)

chazen

Jan 8, 09:23am

4-star recruits as a baseline would be nice.

Jan 8, 10:36am

it amazes me how you guys keep think Bronco is an idiot or incompetent.

Jan 8, 07:29am

And mix with the Pharisees? (short)

JimmyZ

Jan 8, 07:30am

He already does mix with the Pharisees and Sadducees of cougar club. (nm)

Jan 8, 07:31am

No he doesn't. His usual is to deliver his speech, try to avoid questions after

Jan 8, 07:53am

oh, I'm never there, so I wouldn't know. (nm)

Jan 8, 08:11am

No he surfs actual waves

checoug

Jan 8, 07:32am

Who cares. Volume of time is not the determining factor on success.

Jan 8, 07:33am

and he cares about it a whole lot more than we do. (nm)

Belboz

Jan 8, 07:38am

They start off with the delusion that all of BYU's players are another Ziggy

Jan 8, 07:39am

Do you think BYU gets everything they possibly can out of players

Jan 8, 07:48am

thus we are seeing coaching changes, and conditioning changes. (nm)

Jan 8, 07:50am

Currently, not on offense. BYU has historically used a combination of

Jan 8, 08:01am

You nailed it. I wished they used more practice time, but gee, we

Jan 8, 07:49am

Well now you're bringing in the competency of our coaches which I agree with you

Jan 8, 08:11am

Practice doesn't make perfect. It just makes it permanent.

Jan 8, 08:12am

That makes perfect sense why he had fewer pactices if he already

Jan 8, 08:26am

but spending more time doing something right.... helps (nm)

Jan 8, 08:36am

Which is why his D is so good. Unfortunately, the O just wasn't

Jan 8, 08:38am

I am just as amazed that fans can look at the last 3 years and not doubt BM (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 08:31am

I'm not a Bronco can do no wrong guy. He made mistakes in hiring.

Jan 8, 08:37am

You can respect the man, which I question, but you can't respect recent results (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 08:42am

Indeed, thus Bronco getting a new OC. The offense has stunk. He knows it. (short)

Jan 8, 08:51am

LOI day is just 4 weeks away, so of course they will start working (short)

Jan 8, 07:39am

Saban only used 12 of his 15 allowed practices for ND...

TheKing

Jan 8, 08:06am

Link? If true, that needs to be its own thread. (nm)

SausageKingOfChicago

Jan 8, 08:08am

Here you go

TheKing

Jan 8, 08:12am

There was actually some criticism before the game about that.

Jan 8, 08:23am

LOL. That. Is. Awesome. So much for half of CB's favorite Bronco criticism (nm)

Jan 8, 08:13am

Actually no - this only confirms the criticism

Jan 8, 08:25am

We won our bowl game too. (nm)

Jan 8, 08:47am

I wasn't talking JUST the practices leading up to the bowl game

Jan 8, 01:40pm

examples of basic X's and O's problems? (nm)

Jan 8, 04:47pm

Really need a defininition of X's and O's?

Jan 9, 10:12am

How the original post is leading potd and this one isn't is vintage cougarboard (nm)

palangi

Jan 8, 08:57am

Well said. It's the reason why, IMO, college coaches don't make good nfl coaches

Jan 8, 09:52am

Bronco wasn't watching last night, but he seems to do pretty well on D.. (nm)

SausageKingOfChicago

Jan 8, 08:07am

u hope Bronco makes more cliche coaching statements about getting back to work?

Ft Worth Cougar

Jan 8, 08:16am

I generally agree with this statement (nm)

SausageKingOfChicago

Jan 8, 08:23am

Ha, Ha, that's funny. Yeah, I came into work early this morning and told my

Jan 8, 09:12am

Why do you think the coaches and players are doing nothing?

Jan 8, 08:33am

Don't confuse the uneducated with education. They hate Bronco...

Jan 8, 08:35am

Pwned! (nm)

Jan 8, 08:36am

Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work

byutx

Jan 8, 08:38am

Keep moving those goalposts around

Jan 8, 08:46am

RE: Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work

Jan 8, 08:55am

Win more. And stop saying stupid stuff. (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 09:06am

Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid. (nm)

Jan 8, 09:28am

+ A billion (nm)

Jan 8, 09:31am

RE: Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid.

Jan 8, 09:57am

Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 10:36am

RE: Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps

Jan 8, 10:40am

Yours was a Bronco quote. I was referring to Bronco (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 10:51am

ah .. right. That's why I modified my post. Thanks. (nm)

Jan 8, 10:58am

You really don't think BM has said stupid things? (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 10:35am

<< Deleted >> (nm)

Jan 8, 10:39am

Perhaps, but they become infinitely stupider once run through the CB filter (nm)

Jan 8, 12:05pm

The stupid things Bronco says I've heard directly from him on KSL (nm)

byutx

Jan 8, 12:20pm

I have first hand knowledge of a player being in Hawaii

Jan 8, 10:43am

What? This is an outrage! Players shouldn't be allowed to go to Hawaii with a

Jan 8, 11:00am

I think he should lose his scholarship (short)

kkf

Jan 8, 11:02am

nope

Jan 8, 11:03am

It sounds like you are drawing conclusions with little evidence to support them

Jan 8, 11:17am

I dunno.... (short)

Jan 8, 11:24am

That gives you just one point of reference

Jan 8, 11:38am

You assume that BYU's athletes NEVER talk with athletes from other schools...

Jan 8, 11:43am

I was a track athlete at BYU

Jan 8, 11:50am

Plenty of "immediate family" members on various BYU teams here...

Jan 8, 11:54am

So then you can compare and contrast the programs of 2-3 schools

Jan 8, 11:58am

Get right on that...run fast like a bunny and prove a CBer's opinion wrong. (nm)

Jan 8, 12:04pm

My intent wasn't to prove right or wrong

Jan 8, 12:13pm

<< Deleted >> (nm)

Jan 8, 12:03pm

You came up with this conclusion how? (short)

Jan 8, 12:07pm

Of course. Step 1 - I read your posts. Step 2 - There is no step 2! (nm)

Jan 8, 12:13pm

You're an irrational thinker

Jan 8, 12:15pm

It's true, yet I can still spot from a mile away an overinvested fan (nm)

Jan 8, 12:22pm

You know what, my bad, I'm not an irrational thinker, just a stupid one. I

Jan 8, 12:47pm

No worries;) (nm)

Jan 8, 01:47pm

I never said BYU football works harder

Jan 8, 12:10pm

You are casting your pearls before swine...

Jan 8, 12:18pm

I know

Jan 8, 12:27pm

I do it all the time...just from a common sense perspective, not an insider...

Jan 8, 12:33pm

LOL. I haven't followed this whole thread because it's way too long.

Jan 8, 02:45pm

Even atheists use that figure of speech.

Jan 8, 02:59pm

Nice try, I'm an "out-of-stater." (nm)

Jan 8, 04:32pm

Then you have probably heard it as well.

Jan 8, 04:44pm

I appreciate the post

Jan 8, 12:26pm

yes, everyone shows up

Jan 8, 12:43pm

good to hear

Jan 8, 12:48pm

Tell us about your point of reference. (nm)

Ssebo

Jan 8, 01:51pm

I already did. You missed it. (nm)

Jan 8, 01:57pm

Let me play devil's advocate:

Jan 8, 09:00am

^^^A Fantastic Post^^^ (nm)

grosven

Jan 8, 11:48am

Yes great post (nm)

Jan 8, 04:11pm

BYU isn't going to be elite Dan2. Accept it. (nm)

Jan 8, 09:03am

Why do you think ND was just hoping and praying and not practicing? (nm)

Jan 8, 09:07am

Saban also kept referring to his UNIVERSITY as an organization

Jan 8, 09:34am

What do you expect him to say?

HiLife

Jan 8, 10:06am

couldn't agree more

Jan 8, 10:24am

I wonder if CB will take a hint from Sabin

Jan 8, 09:47am

The assumptions made here are astounding. How stupid do you think

Jan 8, 10:08am

I don't think BM is stupid. I think he's lacking in smarts, humility. But people

byutx

Jan 8, 10:37am

deleted (nm)

Jan 8, 10:38am

I think the fact Alabama gets all the best players helps Sabans cause (short)

kkf

Jan 8, 10:44am

This post sucks. (nm)

grosven

Jan 8, 11:38am

"Praying doesn't cut it. Ask Notre Dame" LOL (short)

Jan 8, 12:35pm

They aren't all way over 300 pounds

Jan 8, 12:37pm

This is why I love Nick Saban

StalwartBraveTrue

Jan 8, 02:05pm

RE: I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin

JCBYU

Jan 8, 03:07pm

Good call. Remember the Jones v. McCarron "fight"?

BabyOx

Jan 8, 04:38pm

Nominated

checoug

Jan 8, 10:27pm

Good post (nm)

Heinz57

Jan 9, 10:30am

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