RE: Depends.

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Jun 27, 2013
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DapperDan

RE: Depends.

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I want to monitor the use of the computers in my home. I want to be able to

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:40pm

Obligatory: "Was he actually addicted to porn or did he view it occasionally?"

chago04

6/27/13 1:41pm

Don't forget: "This is mis-categorized as it is political in nature"

supertux

6/27/13 1:42pm

He said he was addicted. We took a trip to Mexico over Christmas with builders

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:48pm

Good for him to coming to see you, usually it is not actually an addiction

chago04

6/27/13 1:49pm

Says who?

cheezedawg

6/27/13 1:51pm

Psychologists

chago04

6/27/13 1:51pm

In the church we refer to any porn usage as a porn addiction

chago04

6/27/13 1:52pm

The Church needs to kick its addiction addiction

DapperDan

6/27/13 1:54pm

Yup, it's so easy for people to not own their habits and label them as addiction

chago04

6/27/13 1:55pm

Practically, what is the difference?

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:58pm

Practically, a true addiction is easier to see the harmful effects

chago04

6/27/13 2:01pm

Depends.

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:54pm

RE: Depends.

DapperDan

6/27/13 1:55pm

Define addiction for us

Yfan atUSU

6/27/13 1:56pm

RE: Define addiction for us

chago04

6/27/13 1:57pm

I felt prompted to ask him. He's 17 and a half. He said he was addicted from 15.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:00pm

If he was able to kick it on his own in a week, it was not an addiction.

chago04

6/27/13 2:03pm

It wasn't just in a week, it took him about 3 months.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:05pm

Going off your alocoholic analogy

KingDave

6/27/13 3:18pm

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Buffalo

6/27/13 1:42pm

You could just ask him for recommendations, easier than screenshots

DapperDan

6/27/13 1:43pm

I found a couple of options Googling "periodic screen capture"

darkcoug

6/27/13 1:45pm

It's in a public place, but we didn't kick him off when we went to bed. Stupid.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:50pm

Don't kick yourself, almost better he gets it now than somewhere else you can't

darkcoug

6/27/13 1:55pm

I'm upgrading his machine from XP to Win 8 now. I'll look into what Win 8 has.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:05pm

What are you using now for an internet filter?

yorksama

6/27/13 1:44pm

OpenDNS and Symanted Online Family.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:51pm

Add K9 to the setup.

supertux

6/27/13 1:53pm

K9 is much better than OpenDNS in my experience.

yorksama

6/27/13 2:01pm

K9 is awesome.

Bobby Dooley

6/27/13 2:22pm

This ^^^ on ALL devices. Open DNS on the router so no friends can bring in..

CougarFella

6/27/13 3:46pm

BTW- it doesn't matter what filter you are using because all can be bypassed

cheezedawg

6/27/13 1:53pm

This is correct.

supertux

6/27/13 2:00pm

Which is why it really has to come from within. Technically, he's months away

CougarFella

6/27/13 3:48pm

Ubuntu live CD + new DNS setting = filters bypassed.

annapcoug

6/27/13 6:49pm

Call the NSA...I'm sure they have some ideas...

StapleGun

6/27/13 1:44pm

So what happens the first time he gets his hands on

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:44pm

I've always subscribed to the idea that the best internet filter is built-in to

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:52pm

You are a good man

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:56pm

Yeah, shame is a bad motivator. It may be effective in the very short run, but

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:06pm

They DEFINATELY need to feel your love has not decreased one bit. Just the fact

CougarFella

6/27/13 3:50pm

I found ebalster to be the best out there. Takes screen shots, logs keystrokes,

TheSmiths

6/27/13 1:45pm

Why would you not want him to know

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:46pm

Guess I would say it differently, well hidden that he can't access it, delete it

TheSmiths

6/27/13 1:48pm

Makes sense. The only point I see for having a filter

StealingHome

6/27/13 1:49pm

Just lie and say it's on there. You don't actually have to do anything.

Admiral Ackbar

6/27/13 1:50pm

Not cheap for the license but I have it on all 3 of my teenagers devices

TheSmiths

6/27/13 1:47pm

while proper precautions should be taken at home all the hardware and software

nashty

6/27/13 1:46pm

We've tried to instill the principles his whole life. It wasn't enough.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:53pm

i know you have. it's just, if he has a real problem this solution is only

nashty

6/27/13 1:56pm

Thank you for your suggestions and encouragement.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:04pm

I think it does help quite a bit though for the person wanting to change

runnincoug

6/27/13 2:44pm

I may ultimately be enough. Even if he has faltered, at least he has a good

CougarFella

6/27/13 3:52pm

+Pharm. Mine are 5-3-1 as well.

PharmCoug

6/28/13 8:03am

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JimmyZ

6/27/13 1:46pm

Use K9. It has its own history that can't be deleted by anyone but admin

supertux

6/27/13 1:46pm

I put that on one of the computers, but it won't install on the one he uses

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:54pm

It should work on XP just fine.

supertux

6/27/13 2:01pm

It should, but that machine is about 6 or 7 years old and has so much crap

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:08pm

who knew Satan was tech savy?

CougarTwins

6/27/13 1:49pm

*raises hand*

supertux

6/27/13 1:50pm

stupid satan

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 1:55pm

You could use VNC to log in and look at the screen at any time

cheezedawg

6/27/13 1:50pm

You would have to find a way to configure it to remain incognito. By default

supertux

6/27/13 1:51pm

Only partial solution, router based Internet connection time-lock

SV Coug

6/27/13 1:56pm

I'll have to look at my router and see what it's got. Good suggestion, thanks.

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:09pm

Hold down the reset button for 15 seconds, bye, bye router schedule.

annapcoug

6/27/13 6:52pm

I always wonder why subjects come up like this on CB.

WJCougar

6/27/13 2:06pm

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Buffalo

6/27/13 2:08pm

after having to air the dirty laundry.

WJCougar

6/27/13 2:09pm

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Buffalo

6/27/13 2:13pm

LOL.....that is funny.

WJCougar

6/27/13 2:14pm

I've had great help already. Those who know me in real life aren't ones I'm

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:13pm

I would like to get help from people who are more tech savvy or who have had

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:10pm

Coming to a forum of people with mostly similar views and beliefs gets support

jdart

6/27/13 2:11pm

BTW, we got him an iPhone 4 a week before I found out about the issue. I had

Cosmo Kramer

6/27/13 2:12pm

LanSchool Lite from an Orem-based company

HuskerCoug

6/27/13 2:39pm

link

BYUFam1

6/27/13 3:11pm

Yikes. I gotta be ready for this, since my son is coming of age...

CougarFella

6/27/13 3:41pm

Gentlemen, there is not a technical solution to this problem.

annapcoug

6/27/13 6:56pm

Actually there is a technical solution for this

Heinz57

6/27/13 7:00pm

We could bat this back and forth but...

annapcoug

6/27/13 7:09pm

Actually no need for two boxes

Heinz57

6/27/13 7:13pm

There's a non-technical solution...Matthew 18:9

CougarFella

6/28/13 10:08am

technical solutions are to help the repenting, not the determined sinner

runnincoug

6/27/13 7:12pm

Exactly, and having them shouldn't make parents any less vigilant

KingDave

6/27/13 7:14pm

Yup. I think this is the point. Use 'em but know they only go so far.

annapcoug

6/27/13 7:16pm

If I were to develop something that addresses the enterprise

Heinz57

6/27/13 7:18pm

Sounds more complicated than most parents know what to do with

KingDave

6/27/13 9:02pm

Cost outweighs the demand at the home level, business do this all over the world

Heinz57

6/27/13 9:36pm

I totally agree with you.

annapcoug

6/27/13 7:15pm

Well said. This is what gives Cosmo hope.

CougarFella

6/28/13 10:10am

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