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Jun 28, 2013
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CougarFella
There's a non-technical solution...Matthew 18:9
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."
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I want to monitor the use of the computers in my home. I want to be able to
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:40pm
Obligatory: "Was he actually addicted to porn or did he view it occasionally?"
chago04
6/27/13 1:41pm
Don't forget: "This is mis-categorized as it is political in nature"
supertux
6/27/13 1:42pm
He said he was addicted. We took a trip to Mexico over Christmas with builders
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:48pm
Good for him to coming to see you, usually it is not actually an addiction
chago04
6/27/13 1:49pm
Says who?
cheezedawg
6/27/13 1:51pm
Psychologists
chago04
6/27/13 1:51pm
In the church we refer to any porn usage as a porn addiction
chago04
6/27/13 1:52pm
The Church needs to kick its addiction addiction
DapperDan
6/27/13 1:54pm
Yup, it's so easy for people to not own their habits and label them as addiction
chago04
6/27/13 1:55pm
Practically, what is the difference?
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:58pm
Practically, a true addiction is easier to see the harmful effects
chago04
6/27/13 2:01pm
Depends.
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:54pm
RE: Depends.
DapperDan
6/27/13 1:55pm
Define addiction for us
Yfan atUSU
6/27/13 1:56pm
RE: Define addiction for us
chago04
6/27/13 1:57pm
I felt prompted to ask him. He's 17 and a half. He said he was addicted from 15.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:00pm
If he was able to kick it on his own in a week, it was not an addiction.
chago04
6/27/13 2:03pm
It wasn't just in a week, it took him about 3 months.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:05pm
Going off your alocoholic analogy
KingDave
6/27/13 3:18pm
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Buffalo
6/27/13 1:42pm
You could just ask him for recommendations, easier than screenshots
DapperDan
6/27/13 1:43pm
I found a couple of options Googling "periodic screen capture"
darkcoug
6/27/13 1:45pm
It's in a public place, but we didn't kick him off when we went to bed. Stupid.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:50pm
Don't kick yourself, almost better he gets it now than somewhere else you can't
darkcoug
6/27/13 1:55pm
I'm upgrading his machine from XP to Win 8 now. I'll look into what Win 8 has.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:05pm
What are you using now for an internet filter?
yorksama
6/27/13 1:44pm
OpenDNS and Symanted Online Family.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:51pm
Add K9 to the setup.
supertux
6/27/13 1:53pm
K9 is much better than OpenDNS in my experience.
yorksama
6/27/13 2:01pm
K9 is awesome.
Bobby Dooley
6/27/13 2:22pm
This ^^^ on ALL devices. Open DNS on the router so no friends can bring in..
CougarFella
6/27/13 3:46pm
BTW- it doesn't matter what filter you are using because all can be bypassed
cheezedawg
6/27/13 1:53pm
This is correct.
supertux
6/27/13 2:00pm
Which is why it really has to come from within. Technically, he's months away
CougarFella
6/27/13 3:48pm
Ubuntu live CD + new DNS setting = filters bypassed.
annapcoug
6/27/13 6:49pm
Call the NSA...I'm sure they have some ideas...
StapleGun
6/27/13 1:44pm
So what happens the first time he gets his hands on
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:44pm
I've always subscribed to the idea that the best internet filter is built-in to
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:52pm
You are a good man
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:56pm
Yeah, shame is a bad motivator. It may be effective in the very short run, but
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:06pm
They DEFINATELY need to feel your love has not decreased one bit. Just the fact
CougarFella
6/27/13 3:50pm
I found ebalster to be the best out there. Takes screen shots, logs keystrokes,
TheSmiths
6/27/13 1:45pm
Why would you not want him to know
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:46pm
Guess I would say it differently, well hidden that he can't access it, delete it
TheSmiths
6/27/13 1:48pm
Makes sense. The only point I see for having a filter
StealingHome
6/27/13 1:49pm
Just lie and say it's on there. You don't actually have to do anything.
Admiral Ackbar
6/27/13 1:50pm
Not cheap for the license but I have it on all 3 of my teenagers devices
TheSmiths
6/27/13 1:47pm
while proper precautions should be taken at home all the hardware and software
nashty
6/27/13 1:46pm
We've tried to instill the principles his whole life. It wasn't enough.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:53pm
i know you have. it's just, if he has a real problem this solution is only
nashty
6/27/13 1:56pm
Thank you for your suggestions and encouragement.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:04pm
I think it does help quite a bit though for the person wanting to change
runnincoug
6/27/13 2:44pm
I may ultimately be enough. Even if he has faltered, at least he has a good
CougarFella
6/27/13 3:52pm
+Pharm. Mine are 5-3-1 as well.
PharmCoug
6/28/13 8:03am
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JimmyZ
6/27/13 1:46pm
Use K9. It has its own history that can't be deleted by anyone but admin
supertux
6/27/13 1:46pm
I put that on one of the computers, but it won't install on the one he uses
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:54pm
It should work on XP just fine.
supertux
6/27/13 2:01pm
It should, but that machine is about 6 or 7 years old and has so much crap
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:08pm
who knew Satan was tech savy?
CougarTwins
6/27/13 1:49pm
*raises hand*
supertux
6/27/13 1:50pm
stupid satan
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 1:55pm
You could use VNC to log in and look at the screen at any time
cheezedawg
6/27/13 1:50pm
You would have to find a way to configure it to remain incognito. By default
supertux
6/27/13 1:51pm
Only partial solution, router based Internet connection time-lock
SV Coug
6/27/13 1:56pm
I'll have to look at my router and see what it's got. Good suggestion, thanks.
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:09pm
Hold down the reset button for 15 seconds, bye, bye router schedule.
annapcoug
6/27/13 6:52pm
I always wonder why subjects come up like this on CB.
WJCougar
6/27/13 2:06pm
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Buffalo
6/27/13 2:08pm
after having to air the dirty laundry.
WJCougar
6/27/13 2:09pm
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Buffalo
6/27/13 2:13pm
LOL.....that is funny.
WJCougar
6/27/13 2:14pm
I've had great help already. Those who know me in real life aren't ones I'm
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:13pm
I would like to get help from people who are more tech savvy or who have had
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:10pm
Coming to a forum of people with mostly similar views and beliefs gets support
jdart
6/27/13 2:11pm
BTW, we got him an iPhone 4 a week before I found out about the issue. I had
Cosmo Kramer
6/27/13 2:12pm
LanSchool Lite from an Orem-based company
HuskerCoug
6/27/13 2:39pm
link
BYUFam1
6/27/13 3:11pm
Yikes. I gotta be ready for this, since my son is coming of age...
CougarFella
6/27/13 3:41pm
Gentlemen, there is not a technical solution to this problem.
annapcoug
6/27/13 6:56pm
Actually there is a technical solution for this
Heinz57
6/27/13 7:00pm
We could bat this back and forth but...
annapcoug
6/27/13 7:09pm
Actually no need for two boxes
Heinz57
6/27/13 7:13pm
There's a non-technical solution...Matthew 18:9
CougarFella
6/28/13 10:08am
technical solutions are to help the repenting, not the determined sinner
runnincoug
6/27/13 7:12pm
Exactly, and having them shouldn't make parents any less vigilant
KingDave
6/27/13 7:14pm
Yup. I think this is the point. Use 'em but know they only go so far.
annapcoug
6/27/13 7:16pm
If I were to develop something that addresses the enterprise
Heinz57
6/27/13 7:18pm
Sounds more complicated than most parents know what to do with
KingDave
6/27/13 9:02pm
Cost outweighs the demand at the home level, business do this all over the world
Heinz57
6/27/13 9:36pm
I totally agree with you.
annapcoug
6/27/13 7:15pm
Well said. This is what gives Cosmo hope.
CougarFella
6/28/13 10:10am
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