Jul 28, 2014
11:49:09am
11:49:09am
The claim does sound bizarre, until you actually know something about the U
Many moons ago, I was a business major. Over 50% of the UofU students that were already admitted and taking pre-business courses did not make it into the business school. They had to drop out of school or pick a different emphasis. The main washout classes were a 3 class series of business calculus. At the time BYU didn't even require calculus for a business degree. Now BYU finance has a pass/fail (that is about as easy as it gets) overview that covers a little bit of calculus during part of a semester.
My son graduated in Mechanical Engineering at the U this year. In order to maintain accredation as an ME program, the average GPA has to be 2.5 in core classes. At the U, if you get one C then you have to retake the class and improve the grade or drop out of the program. My son estimates that 70% of the kids that started with him as freshmen were FORCED OUT OF THE PROGRAM. MEs at BYU are allowed straight Cs and one D in order to stay in the program. I am guessing the dropout rate is waaaaaay lower than 70%.
My daughter wants to go to BYU with a music major - piano. BYU accepts exactly 10 new piano students per year determined primarily by a tryout performance. Tough to get in and my daughter thinks her chances to get in are 50/50. Advisors at the U have told her that she is a lock to get accepted to the U, but she will need to take challenging performance tests with higher standards every year and she will need to improve a ton to actually get a degree at the U.
My other son is a pre-med Physics major at the U and they wash tons of kids out of the program thru sheer class difficulty and tough grading. I think it is the toughest major at the U and kids drop out of it and go into Engineering.
I know several people that have gone to BYU and I have never known one to face the type of washout process I described above. I realize that my examples are anecdotal. Does my claim still sound bizarre? Do I need more examples?
The truly bizarre concept (at least to some people on this board) is that the U is actually a legitimate university with a challenging curriculum.
My son graduated in Mechanical Engineering at the U this year. In order to maintain accredation as an ME program, the average GPA has to be 2.5 in core classes. At the U, if you get one C then you have to retake the class and improve the grade or drop out of the program. My son estimates that 70% of the kids that started with him as freshmen were FORCED OUT OF THE PROGRAM. MEs at BYU are allowed straight Cs and one D in order to stay in the program. I am guessing the dropout rate is waaaaaay lower than 70%.
My daughter wants to go to BYU with a music major - piano. BYU accepts exactly 10 new piano students per year determined primarily by a tryout performance. Tough to get in and my daughter thinks her chances to get in are 50/50. Advisors at the U have told her that she is a lock to get accepted to the U, but she will need to take challenging performance tests with higher standards every year and she will need to improve a ton to actually get a degree at the U.
My other son is a pre-med Physics major at the U and they wash tons of kids out of the program thru sheer class difficulty and tough grading. I think it is the toughest major at the U and kids drop out of it and go into Engineering.
I know several people that have gone to BYU and I have never known one to face the type of washout process I described above. I realize that my examples are anecdotal. Does my claim still sound bizarre? Do I need more examples?
The truly bizarre concept (at least to some people on this board) is that the U is actually a legitimate university with a challenging curriculum.
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