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Aug 20, 2014
12:10:00pm

Accipiter

Because it's virtually never used outside of football, as in to deride

Native Americans, I think it is a benign term. I have never flinched or seen anyone else before the current furor flinch or think twice about calling the Redskins, the Redskins. Ever. If it's morphed recently it's because certain political types today want an axe to grind.

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Accipiter

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The facts about the Redskins name and Logo

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:25am

The term "Redskins" has one connotation today: the NFL

SpiffCoug

8/20/14 10:31am

"What makes the red man red?"

Y05

8/20/14 10:38am

This is actually very misunderstood (and confusing) anti-communist propaganda

byutx

8/20/14 10:40am

Agree

Busiturtle

8/20/14 10:39am

I wonder when all the Native Americans got together and voted for those few to

byutx

8/20/14 10:33am

AA's were called the n word 100 years ago but we've moved past that

RC Vikings

8/20/14 10:33am

Why do so many pretend to be offended when the VAST majority of

byubyu

8/20/14 10:39am

because politics is a team sport. you always have to root for

riboflavin

8/20/14 10:40am

If talking about "negro" then you might be on to something. The other "n" word

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:57am

I had the epiphany this morning that the name Redskin is not racist nor

Y05

8/20/14 10:36am

Well said, although I would love for a team named Washington Cronies

Busiturtle

8/20/14 10:42am

They should also bring back their Bud Light "Firewater" and the smoke signal

byutx

8/20/14 10:43am

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Mall Santa

8/20/14 10:43am

so, should we come up with new names for

Y05

8/20/14 11:05am

It's really impressive the amount of dumb that can fit in a single post

DapperDan

8/20/14 11:20am

When I played intramurals at BYU, our team name was the "Fighting Whities."

AndyDwyer

8/20/14 10:44am

Reverse discrimination.

byutx

8/20/14 10:45am

This thread is sad.

ebv

8/20/14 10:57am

RE: This thread is sad.

byutx

8/20/14 11:03am

Bravo!

ebv

8/20/14 11:38am

It's hardly a "large swath". But here we are again, letting the minority among

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:05am

I think you have that backwards

byutx

8/20/14 11:06am

What would you say it is?

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:15am

I think this is a case where the majority is deciding the minority's fate

byutx

8/20/14 11:17am

See, I disagree.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:32am

I may have misread your post above. But I think we can also construe this as the

byutx

8/20/14 11:40am

I get your point of view here, but

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:51am

How is their opinion "revoked"?

ebv

8/20/14 12:00pm

Merriam-Webster defines "revoke" as follows:

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:04pm

You conveniently ignore the first definition: to "officially" cancel it

ebv

8/20/14 12:09pm

Changing the name of the Redskins seemed to be a pretty official thing.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:46pm

Ha! How are they using their official authority to do it?

ebv

8/20/14 1:38pm

Well, it hasn't been done yet, so this is all hypothetical.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 1:47pm

Founding principle: protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

ebv

8/20/14 11:43am

Sure, but this issue doesn't have anything to do with actions.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:53am

I agree, to a point--it's more commercial than civil rights.

ebv

8/20/14 11:58am

It is not warped in any way!

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:07pm

How is that wrong if the majority doesn't care?

ebv

8/20/14 12:10pm

There is pretty easy and recent one....

ABCoug

8/20/14 6:46pm

What about when a minority of a minority group changes it's mind?

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:57am

So, because it was innocuous in the 1800s means it hasn't changed or warped?

ebv

8/20/14 12:00pm

Because it's virtually never used outside of football, as in to deride

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:10pm

So anecdotal evidence trumps all for you, too. Great.

ebv

8/20/14 12:11pm

Find and example and you might change my mind

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:14pm

Isn't that more because there are relatively few Native Americans compared to

ebv

8/20/14 12:41pm

44 million (African Amercian) vs 5.2 million in the US

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:55pm

Ok, your empirical evidence is unassailable. Redskin is clearly not derogatory.

ebv

8/20/14 1:41pm

I am saying no one hears it being used. I am still waiting for you to prove me

Accipiter

8/20/14 6:57pm

Wasn't the owner of the team considered racist?

El Fuego

8/20/14 10:57am

Maybe you're confusing Snyder with Sterling?

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:59am

Nope.. just did some quick Google search. Looks like he indeed was.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:00am

Marshall being a racist means Dan Snyder also is?

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:13am

Looks like Lone Star was probably German.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:18am

He claimed he was Native American. Ownership thought he was.

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:23am

I think you're ignoring the big picture and focusing on only one aspect.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:26am

But old rich white guys from NE don't care. They are offended on behalf of

8/20/14 11:22am

It was a GOTV attempt by Dems to try and get Native Americans

marticorp

8/20/14 1:57pm

Should re-name it the Thinskins, after the PC crowd

8/20/14 9:51pm

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