Then to your point it is irrelevant if Bronco stays.

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Oct 24, 2014
11:07:20am

kalifi

Then to your point it is irrelevant if Bronco stays.

I am just simply saying that I disagree with your assertion that it only hurts if Bronco stays. I think it hurts whether Bronco is let go or if Bronco stays. I just think it hurts no matter what. I just don't find Derik's approach as a good method of communicating concerns.

Does it bug me that much? No...but it gave me something to discuss this morning.

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kalifi

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I appreciate Derik's desire to see the program succeed.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:29am

What is it with people getting scared by public opposition?

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:31am

Better to ask that in FO.

BluePete

10/24/14 10:32am

I don't think it is being scared by public opposition as much as it is

kalifi

10/24/14 10:33am

Derik is a straight shooter

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:38am

He crosses a line tho

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:40am

Derik will tweet TH the link to make sure he sees it

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:42am

Just ranting to TH does very little

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:46am

He shouldn't be writing...like the OP said-be a straight shooter

kalifi

10/24/14 10:43am

straight shooter in a crowd ha

Big Daddy D

10/24/14 10:44am

exactly...wrong venue...pick a better target to shoot at.

kalifi

10/24/14 10:45am

It's not about being scared, it's about not doing anything to hurt public

ldssdl

10/24/14 10:34am

Hurt the public perception of BYU? Losing three in a row will do that worse than

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:37am

Yes, losing 3 games in a row hurts. But this is making it worse than it has to b

ldssdl

10/24/14 10:44am

It's making it as bad as it really is

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:46am

That's a pretty subjective argument

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:51am

The OP is a subjective argument, your own posts are subjective

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:55am

Good point, I'll concede to that, that's what this whole board is (mostly)

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:59am

It doesn't help. Even in the constructive critisizing argument

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:45am

Effective is the key word here.

dratax

10/24/14 10:40am

Not scared of opposition

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:47am

You think TH can't read an article? It's also far easier to dismiss a single

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:52am

Yeah he can but getting a group and speaking face-to-face is more effective IMO

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:46am

1) hurts team focus notice players already are speaking out 2) hurts recruiting

BYUfan92

10/24/14 11:15am

We sometimes forget how young these players are.

BluePete

10/24/14 11:23am

A lot of these guys are as old as professional athletes.

mr_thekid

10/24/14 12:08pm

True. But that wasn't my point. There are enough kids...yes, kids.

BluePete

10/24/14 12:27pm

A team that can't focus due to an article will lose games because they're

DapperDan

10/24/14 11:24am

I'm just saying there is a better platform to get his message across.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:50am

How do you know that's a better method?

DapperDan

10/24/14 11:51am

How is it not?

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:57am

First it's naive to think Holmoe won't at least hear about the article so he'll

DapperDan

10/24/14 12:03pm

Never did I say Tom won't see it.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 12:58pm

I notice you left out any details of what you expect would happen

DapperDan

10/24/14 1:03pm

Me too, but I agree he was way mean and it was scary/uncomfortable

ChopperDave

10/24/14 10:32am

Sorry that your feelings, and Bronco's got hurt. Rub some dirt on them.

coug203

10/24/14 10:37am

Derik's agenda is to get Bronco fired and to get Sitake hired

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:35am

Hurts recruiting this year too IMO

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:37am

How much does a guy who none of them have ever heard of move the needle?

concolor couguar

10/24/14 10:39am

Sure doesn't help

LDTemplar

10/24/14 12:33pm

certainly but that was not the argument being made.

concolor couguar

10/24/14 1:14pm

I don't think it's a secret that some ex-players are not happy

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:41am

Then if they aren't happy go to someone who has a say in the decision!

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:45am

...and if Sitake gets hired...

kalifi

10/24/14 10:39am

You overestimate Derik's influence

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:44am

You misunderstand...

kalifi

10/24/14 10:51am

So what?

donnerstag

10/24/14 11:00am

Then to your point it is irrelevant if Bronco stays.

kalifi

10/24/14 11:07am

If the program stays at status quo, then the article thrashes Howell and Bronco

donnerstag

10/24/14 11:19am

Great comments

LDTemplar

10/24/14 12:35pm

Are there links to Poppinga and Alisa's responses?

FiveTen-BuckEighty

10/24/14 10:37am

I didn't hear Pop's but Derik called him out

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:38am

I'd just like to see Mike run around a blocker for a sack for him this year.....

lawboy

10/24/14 11:00am

Yep - we need a big game from him tonight. Run around the tackle for Bronco

FiveTen-BuckEighty

10/24/14 11:02am

So a player and a current coaches brother support their coach?

10/24/14 12:13pm

According to these tweets, he claims he has already gone to Tom Holmoe

10/24/14 1:42pm

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