1. That's not my thinking at all. I feel they want to be surrounded by other good players because they're not confident they can be 'the man'.

2. 'they keep beating our butts' Really ? Our games with them have come down to turnovers. Period. They are not 'beating our butts'. Some here need to man up and not be a quivering wuss. BYU is not an inferior program. utah got bailed out by the p12. They could not have done what we have been able to do.

3. We have played a more difficult schedule than you're giving us credit for. SOS rankings don't account for all the travel or lack of familiarity with opponents. ND with all of their history and resources struggles with an independent schedule too.