because vague does not trump vague

^^^ Recap ^^^

Zach Morris

1/28/15 8:30am

Wait, doesn't he know that he has to be loyal Bronco to still be blue???

Walter Bellhaven

1/28/15 8:30am

Shhh somewhere Polaris is listening..and his band of merry men

CarolinaCoug

1/28/15 2:14pm

Wow....

PolarisPrime

1/28/15 10:46pm

Busted

JamesDean

1/28/15 10:48pm

True, the same way this guy lives rent free in our heads

Walter Bellhaven

1/29/15 9:08am

Never heard of him.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 9:57am

Some haven't. 59 million people have though. Point remains.

Walter Bellhaven

1/29/15 10:06am

59 million documented. There are tons of undocumented.

JamesDean

1/29/15 10:13am

What point

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:20am

Well, ya. I assume you're white.

JamesDean

1/29/15 11:24am

Correct, you missed the point but to be fair

Walter Bellhaven

1/29/15 11:26am

I sure hope not

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:31am

I finally got around to watching your clip

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:24am

For entertainment value? Absolutely.

Walter Bellhaven

1/29/15 11:27am

Well...

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:32am

Woah! What brought CC up? He living rent free in your mind?

Walter Bellhaven

1/29/15 11:36am

Not really a well thought out post

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:43am

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PolarisPrime

1/31/15 2:24am

He also said

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 8:30am

Yep. But all of us are just whiners if we acknowledge the same.

Zach Morris

1/28/15 8:31am

It only becomes whining when you say it

deljdc

1/28/15 3:50pm

Is Bronco going to hold him accountable or something?

catawag

1/28/15 8:31am

RE: Wow! Jason Buck is being brutally honest on 1280 right now...

Grit for Brains

1/28/15 8:31am

Which is weird, because Bronco said when he took over how important it was to

foofcoug

1/28/15 8:31am

I miss the 2006-2009 Bronco. Seems as his priorities changed so did the results.

ldssdl

1/28/15 9:06am

that's what happens when football is 5th

icecougar

1/28/15 5:32pm

Bronco had a lot of ideas until they intruded on his world view of BYU football.

Bonoman

1/28/15 11:24am

Yeah well he also said that winning at home and beating your rival was critical.

swingcat

1/28/15 12:15pm

The infamous "State Championship"

foofcoug

1/28/15 12:18pm

Yes, Bronco started out with good intentions but didn't follow through as ...

k2coug

1/28/15 8:30pm

Buck is Kyle's man & has had an ax to grind for some time.

Mantis Mutu

1/28/15 8:33am

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East1999

1/28/15 8:35am

I do.

Mantis Mutu

1/28/15 8:36am

Never underestimate the capacity of a former star to hold a grudge b/c his kid

BluePete

1/28/15 8:39am

So we shouldn't like former players unless they love Bronco?

Zach Morris

1/28/15 8:51am

RE: So we shouldn't like former players unless they love Bronco?

cougarick

1/28/15 8:57am

and the band strikes up..

CarolinaCoug

1/28/15 2:15pm

Obviously you don't understand. If anyone has anything bad to say about BYU or

DapperDan

1/28/15 8:51am

It is true that Jason's son went to Utah as a walk-on. He could not qualify

NewMexiCoug

1/28/15 9:01am

Exactly my point. This is the only rational explanation for why he would say

DapperDan

1/28/15 9:12am

kyle promised his son would. Play/be a starter after a year...

1984coug

1/28/15 10:04am

You misused the word rational.

PolarisPrime

1/28/15 10:53pm

LOL.

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 8:52am

Right so if Bronco embraced him and other alumni he'd still

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 8:37am

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East1999

1/28/15 8:49am

Virtually all of the classic era players are Kyle's men

shakarocks

1/28/15 8:38am

RE: Virtually all of the classic era players are Kyle's men

Coogar2

1/28/15 8:57am

Apparently not...

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:02am

Unlike KW?

gustav88

1/28/15 9:07am

I don't notice a lot of Ute legacy kids thumbing their noses at Utah to come to

icecougar

1/28/15 5:57pm

no offense but Utah really doesn't have any possible "legacy" players kids

palangi

1/28/15 7:58pm

How about Jason Buck? Did he son get to start as promised by Whit?

capo

1/29/15 5:45pm

Which is very sad considering

Y05

1/28/15 9:32am

Kwitt is smart

shakarocks

1/28/15 10:06am

That's it...culture eats strategy every day of the week for lunch...

icecougar

1/28/15 6:00pm

That shouldn't necessarily be taken as a surprise

hansel

1/28/15 9:40am

Eye opening

canadiancougar624

1/28/15 8:34am

I saw on twitter that he felt sick after watching Utah practice vs BYU practice

catawag

1/28/15 8:34am

He mentioned it on the radio as well

shakarocks

1/28/15 8:36am

It was his conscience. Telling him he shouldn't be at a Utah practice. Traitor.

bluefish

1/28/15 10:33am

Just speculating, but it probably had something to do with the fast efficient...

Bonoman

1/28/15 11:26am

was it Buck that got his panties in a wad over his son not getting a scholarship

kotacoug

1/28/15 8:35am

RE: was it Buck that got his panties in a wad over his son not getting a

catawag

1/28/15 8:37am

Honestly, that was a great interview.

Tokolosh

1/28/15 8:37am

nobody is gonna want to agree with you here, but you're right. in a

johnnycarson

1/28/15 8:53am

let's hear it from more than a couple guys before we say everyone feels that way

permiso

1/28/15 8:55am

well you missed the point. not everyone feels that way. but when even one

johnnycarson

1/28/15 8:57am

it's recruiting last days, his son is a Ute, he loves Whitt

permiso

1/28/15 8:59am

I think it colors his take but doesn't necessarily discredit it.

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:03am

his son is not a ute. not on the team.

johnnycarson

1/28/15 9:08am

Utah needs to update their own website then

permiso

1/28/15 9:12am

The website has profiles for anyone that has played at Utah

zuxvon

1/28/15 10:17am

Where did you dig that up?

SWUte

1/28/15 11:22am

someone linked to it above

permiso

1/28/15 2:07pm

his son is a ute .. was on the team in 2009 and 2010

ManicBlue

1/28/15 10:23am

How many people do you need to hear it from before you will belieive?

Blue for Life

1/28/15 12:54pm

you said it best "you cant keep everyone happy"

permiso

1/28/15 1:00pm

True but you can keep people from doing that.

Blue for Life

1/28/15 1:11pm

Bronco doesn't kiss media's and or hellbent alumni's butt

permiso

1/28/15 1:28pm

lol, thanks Ute for chiming in. Like we care about what you think on the matter

permiso

1/28/15 8:53am

well maybe we should. of course utah fans love this. but he's right.

johnnycarson

1/28/15 8:58am

Do you go out of your way to be an idiot

shakarocks

1/28/15 9:03am

lol

permiso

1/28/15 9:10am

Shaka isn't a Bronco hater.

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 9:53am

that's fine. I don't care to remember who thinks one way or another

permiso

1/28/15 10:02am

I like Bronco

shakarocks

1/28/15 10:29am

235 "cares" so far.

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:04am

people stop and stare at accidents they pass on the freeway too

permiso

1/28/15 9:06am

300 "stop-n-stares" and counting...

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:12am

you could start a thread with the word POOP in the title

permiso

1/28/15 9:15am

I may try that.

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:17am

do it, it will be a fun social experiment and you could use it later

permiso

1/28/15 9:45am

I care about this Ute's post...

ZooBlue

1/28/15 11:20am

want a cookie?

permiso

1/28/15 11:22am

Sugar free would be nice

ZooBlue

1/28/15 12:54pm

Geeze. Where have I heard that before? For about nine years?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CarolinaCoug

1/28/15 2:20pm

a couple players I know from 90s love BM and how he has treated Alumni, invites

byu1

1/28/15 8:37am

Are you sure they still feel this way?

Downtown

1/28/15 8:38am

He doesn't still have the annual BYU football alumnus picnic/party?

NewMexiCoug

1/28/15 9:04am

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East1999

1/28/15 8:51am

Nor are you ( or me )

NewMexiCoug

1/28/15 8:57am

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East1999

1/28/15 9:00am

I don't "seek" the info, it just so happens to be the only former player I know

byu1

1/28/15 9:06am

Maybe interviews like this lead to lack of willingness to return a call.

Accipiter

1/28/15 8:58am

Bingo. Buck is an idiot and proves it in many areas.

Coogar2

1/28/15 9:00am

Listen to Jim Herrmann, a legacy player, and you will hear something

Coogar2

1/28/15 9:01am

I'm not saying Buck is wrong, but I have heard him rag on Bronco before.

PJMort

1/28/15 10:10am

After seeing BYU Play Memphis. Nevada, UCF, etc, he's spot on

Turnpike Lane

1/28/15 9:02am

Jason Buck made was brutally making a YEWT out of himself!

WhyaskY?

1/28/15 9:06am

Wrong!

Cougarcountryben

1/28/15 12:04pm

no, very few acually...the whiners get attention

coot20

1/28/15 3:58pm

Honest question regarding Bronco and former players

ALC

1/28/15 9:07am

Maybe 1280 is playing us all for fools. He gets wind of 1 guy who will spit on

BlueNtheFace

1/28/15 9:09am

The interview really was about the Super Bowl...

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:17am

Ah, ok. Not in Utah. Buck's a stud, whether high on the program or not.

BlueNtheFace

1/28/15 9:19am

Nor am I. Occasionally I tune in on the apps to some of the local shows...

Tokolosh

1/28/15 9:21am

are you serious?

permiso

1/28/15 9:48am

Or maybe BYU is playing us for fools hoping we keep consuming an average product

Turnpike Lane

1/28/15 9:19am

brutally honest or brutally opinionated?

blucoug18

1/28/15 9:16am

Brutally opinionated because Ktwitt let his son walk on at the U

Coogar2

1/28/15 9:19am

Confirmation bias. All around.

mulletino

1/28/15 9:16am

Jason Buck is an idiot and has proven that over and over

ManicBlue

1/28/15 9:47am

He was a fantastic player for BYU. Deserves better than to be called an "idiot"

Real Men Wear Blue

1/28/15 9:51am

He may be bitter but he's not an "idiot". Anyone who can't see the overall

Nakedbootleg

1/28/15 9:57am

He was a good player for BYU but he's earned the labels by his comments and

ManicBlue

1/28/15 9:57am

I agree!

Cougarcountryben

1/28/15 12:49pm

Hmmmm, BRONCO DIDN'T HIRE BUCK WHEN HE APPLIED...

Cougarpride

1/28/15 9:55am

Whittingham didn't hire him either when he applied.

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 9:59am

Bronco also did not recruit Buck's son

Cougarpride

1/28/15 10:00am

He tried walking on. Couldn't hack it.

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 10:16am

Do we really have to attack Jason because he tells us the truth?

OptimisTIC

1/28/15 11:54am

he didn't tell the truth, that's the problem

palangi

1/28/15 12:10pm

He seems to tell the truth as far as he has seen it.

Accipiter

1/28/15 12:14pm

Buck wants entitlement so Bronco will never be his guy. James Dye kid is here,

palangi

1/28/15 12:47pm

I just fixed my post... I think we agree. I don't doubt or even argue with Buck

Accipiter

1/28/15 12:58pm

seems most of the kids you mentioned live outside Utah...

icecougar

1/28/15 6:16pm

perhaps, I also think the out of state kids value the BYU experience much more

palangi

1/29/15 7:43am

still an opinion no matter how many believe it

Ft Worth Cougar

1/28/15 12:11pm

The word truth sure gets bandied about here quite loosely.

RebelScum

1/28/15 12:57pm

Eyeore you'd attack anyone regardless

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 1:03pm

One thing that doesnt make sense here. Jason says most "former" players don't

fierce16

1/28/15 10:15am

Lavell players

ALC

1/28/15 10:16am

Pure, unadulterated bushwa!

Freddie Cougar

1/28/15 10:22am

LOL. You're my favorite Athletic Supporter.

RockyBalboa

1/28/15 10:24am

Nice rebuttal.

Freddie Cougar

1/28/15 10:50am

RE: Wow! Jason Buck is being brutally honest on 1280 right now...

EricTheUte

1/28/15 10:23am

still butt-hurt is son wasn't good enought for a scholarship?

cougarnw

1/28/15 10:28am

Winning solves all issues.

capo

1/28/15 10:57am

Love this point - WINNING. Bronco is not only the best chance for BYU to win...

ZooBlue

1/28/15 12:08pm

Unless we need our Time outs with a minute left in a game to score..

CarolinaCoug

1/29/15 1:54am

I think Tom Holmoe is a pretty smart man. He was also fired as HC at Cal

capo

1/29/15 1:24pm

Funny subject line

ZooBlue

1/30/15 7:46am

also not alienating BYU former players, family and friends solves issues too

icecougar

1/28/15 5:48pm

Gotta hear it first and then I will chime in

Bonoman

1/28/15 11:18am

Buck has always had disdain for Bronco--even in Bronco's better years.

RebelScum

1/28/15 12:32pm

Great minds think alike!

ZooBlue

1/28/15 12:57pm

90% is a huge exaggeration but there is definitely less enthusiasm about the

Harrison0Yfan

1/28/15 1:08pm

Buck is a bit off his rocker if he thinks that Lavell had a relationship with

CougarsFanSince80s

1/28/15 1:52pm

Sounds like Jason and I could share a Sprite together and get along just fine.

Cougarfan777

1/28/15 2:35pm

BLA BLA BLA... go away Buck.... he is just mad

BYU4eVeR

1/28/15 3:29pm

Wow! Jason Buck sounded incredibly petulant on the radio this morning

jsjohnson1278

1/28/15 3:43pm

#roids

ag4cougs

1/28/15 4:36pm

you sure it wasn't Derik Stevenson doing his Jason Buck impersonation?

icecougar

1/28/15 5:29pm

You mean the player that went into the stands

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 12:52pm

Funny how a former player

PolarisPrime

1/28/15 10:49pm

"verifiably not true?" please elaborate

BYUtiful

1/29/15 7:58am

Sounds like a very smart and attractive guy.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:18am

again, you are asserting there are verifiable facts showing buck is full of it

BYUtiful

1/29/15 12:31pm

All I had to provide was one to shatter the lie.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 12:50pm

i did not "move" any targets, you simply chose to narrow it to a small enough

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:04pm

dude, go find your own links. It's pretty easy to look at each statement and

palangi

1/29/15 1:33pm

seriously?

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:41pm

prove the claims you're making, you've proven nothing he said wss factual

palangi

1/29/15 2:33pm

what claims am I making?

BYUtiful

1/29/15 2:56pm

Let me help you

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 5:33pm

that's better; now let me help you: bronco 9 yrs ago

BYUtiful

1/29/15 10:55pm

Only in the minds of some very strange and arrogant people

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:26pm

congrats on doing some serious projecting there

BYUtiful

1/29/15 11:31pm

Wow. That makes no sense at all.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:39pm

it's actually not late at all where i am

BYUtiful

1/30/15 12:04am

Why do you keep saying no proof?

PolarisPrime

1/30/15 12:30am

because vague does not trump vague

BYUtiful

1/30/15 1:17am

Very true

PolarisPrime

1/30/15 1:48pm

exactly--you don't see the relevance

BYUtiful

1/31/15 1:35am

OK.. You win again... Well done.

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 2:25am

whatever makes you feel better

BYUtiful

1/31/15 3:06am

Sorry - you moved the target.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 5:16pm

you serious? pretty much everything Buck said was untruthful

palangi

1/29/15 1:03pm

maybe he was, maybe he wasn't

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:04pm

Give it up man. You're beat.

Freddie Cougar

1/29/15 1:14pm

freddie at his finest

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:27pm

Several facts have been offered. You're just impervious and can't even see it.

Freddie Cougar

1/29/15 1:44pm

I appreciate your keen insight and ability to discern fact from opinion

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:56pm

Kozlowski, Anderson, Drage, Hooks etc have all sent recruits BYU's way

palangi

1/29/15 1:15pm

Been reading your posts on this chain

ZooBlue

1/29/15 6:19pm

yeah I like your definition. By trueblue I meant that BYU is still the team he

palangi

1/29/15 9:04pm

yep, most former players have felt that Bronco rolls out the red carpet for them

palangi

1/29/15 1:18pm

i hope that's true and that you're correct

BYUtiful

1/29/15 1:27pm

Have you only been a BYU "fan" for 2 years?

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 5:24pm

Ok, Ok I admit it!

capo

1/29/15 10:14pm

no, you said "a bunch of things" were verifiably not true

BYUtiful

1/29/15 11:01pm

keep up with the logic dude.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:28pm

thanks for mentioning logic; i'm trying to help you out there

BYUtiful

1/29/15 11:35pm

Thanks for proving my point.

PolarisPrime

1/29/15 11:47pm

RE: Thanks for proving my point.

BYUtiful

1/30/15 12:03am

Wow....

PolarisPrime

1/30/15 12:32am

"ridiculed," huh?

BYUtiful

1/30/15 1:15am

Keep swinging slugger

PolarisPrime

1/30/15 1:49pm

when your arguments fail, you turn to cliche sports metaphors

BYUtiful

1/30/15 2:10pm

No... I do it when your arguments fail... to make any sense

PolarisPrime

1/30/15 3:24pm

the fact that you can't see, after a prolonged exchange, that i'm not making

BYUtiful

1/31/15 1:34am

Lets see....

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 2:47am

*sigh* really...?

BYUtiful

1/31/15 3:33am

Lets get simple here since that is apparently what you need

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 10:32am

simple answer: how should i know?

BYUtiful

1/31/15 10:39am

And therin lies the problem

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 10:48am

haha - you are good at name-calling, accusing, and projecting, but not

BYUtiful

1/31/15 11:26am

Actually....

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 10:44am

thank you for once again proving my point that your bias is so strong

BYUtiful

1/31/15 11:20am

RE: thank you for once again proving my point that your bias is so strong

ZooBlue

1/31/15 12:24pm

Good grief! Should you two be separated?

ZooBlue

1/31/15 12:25pm

either that, or we're getting hitched a week from tuesday

BYUtiful

1/31/15 12:30pm

Haha! Great!

ZooBlue

1/31/15 12:35pm