Your Dodger stadium claim has been proven wrong, Greinke is having the 11th best

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Sep 2, 2015
10:14:31pm

JOPE

Your Dodger stadium claim has been proven wrong, Greinke is having the 11th best

season in history for ERA+ (ERA adjusted for ballpark). The only pitchers in the last 40 years on this list ahead of him are Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez (each twice). Arietta is having an amazing year, 86th all time in adjusted ERA this year, but not in the same ballpark as Greinke this year and also behind Sonny Gray (80th). Plus you continue to lose credibility with your wins argument.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/earned_run_avg_plus_season.shtml

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Originally posted on Sep 2, 2015 at 10:14:31pm

Message modified by JOPE on Sep 2, 2015 at 10:16:01pm

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JOPE

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Last login: Apr 28, 2024
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Time

RE: Arrieta is the best pitcher in baseball

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 4:31pm

1988 was a long time ago ... Thus, Dodger fans are becoming more and more salty

MormonDevil

9/2/15 4:32pm

"Tough life." -Cubs fans

SPORTS

9/2/15 5:56pm

it's very difficult for me to discuss Jake Arrieta in a way that wouldn't get

smokymountainrain

9/2/15 4:39pm

I feel your pain, bro.

JoMax

9/2/15 4:44pm

thanks, man. always good to know I'm not alone.

smokymountainrain

9/2/15 4:45pm

It probably doesn't. He's probably simply stating, and correctly, I might add,

9/2/15 4:41pm

6 good starts? Lol

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 5:00pm

pretty much sums it up.

JOPE

9/2/15 6:38pm

And I'll have you know, that wasn't easy for me!

9/2/15 6:54pm

Why are you linking to a post where you declare victory by statistical arguments

BoiseBlue

9/2/15 4:57pm

Wins and ERA are 1940s stats? Lol

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 5:49pm

They aren't the best stats for determining how good a pitcher is.

Shimmy

9/2/15 6:58pm

Please tell me better stats than era and wins

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 7:23pm

WHIP

Shimmy

9/2/15 7:51pm

LOLOLOLOLOL

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 9:54pm

You keep saying I said ERA doesn't matter but I didn't

JOPE

9/2/15 8:23pm

When your argument gets weak you fall back to "career". LOL.

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:12pm

Since the all star break Kershaw has a 1.02 ERA, Arietta has a 1.03

JOPE

9/2/15 10:29pm

Still trying? LOL

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:43pm

Best pitchers aren't defined by the quality of their top end stuff

molodyets

9/2/15 5:21pm

True. This why you need to further your knowledge

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 5:45pm

so come back when he has more than one phenomenal month.

molodyets

9/2/15 6:24pm

Leads majors in wins, second in era

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 7:36pm

He isn't the best pitcher in baseball

molodyets

9/2/15 7:51pm

for some reason, that is difficult to understand

JOPE

9/2/15 8:47pm

I'm not talking about career. I'm talking NOW. 2015.

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:01pm

Your Dodger stadium claim has been proven wrong, Greinke is having the 11th best

JOPE

9/2/15 10:14pm

What is Greinke's ERA away from Dodger Stadium again?

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:24pm

You realize that he literally just gave you info adjusting for stadium?

molodyets

9/2/15 10:27pm

No, I gave him the INFO

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:47pm

hahahaha, your logic is so bad, I gave you the actual stat that tracks this

JOPE

9/2/15 10:49pm

No Jope, his record in August is perfect in every way.

molodyets

9/2/15 11:02pm

I gave you an apples to apples comparison and you ignored it. LOL.

Ad nauseum

9/3/15 12:34am

Ok, now I think you havnt even seen the stats, Greinke is #1 in ERA

JOPE

9/3/15 12:50am

Now you are discussing total innings pitched? LOLOLOL

Ad nauseum

9/3/15 1:10am

Basing any argument regarding the dominance of a pitcher on wins is laughable.

Shimmy

9/2/15 6:57pm

It's like saying Robert Horry is better than Jordan cuz he has more rings

WDaddy

9/2/15 6:59pm

Jordan > Malone and Robert Horry > Antoine Carr

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:14pm

I said wins and ERA are most important

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 7:18pm

Probably bothers Jope because Arrieta isn't the best pitcher in baseball

WDaddy

9/2/15 6:57pm

Fortunately, I base mine on stats....not emotion.

Ad nauseum

9/2/15 10:26pm

The only thing that sucks more than baseball is your take on baseball.

Epileptic Beagle

9/2/15 7:15pm

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