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Oct 12, 2015
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Slim
Med students cause more work for everyone. Residents are the cheap labor.
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Talked to a faculty member re: Provo high school (among other things)
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 6:45pm
Cecil Samuelson said BYU would never have a med school - too many Federal rules.
Monomachos
10/12/15 6:49pm
He would definitely know more about that than most.
bretonnia
10/12/15 6:54pm
This is true. I'm pre-med at BYU and many of us have been heavily recruited by
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 6:58pm
Lol. College students have former colleagues. You're killing me.
Wingnut
10/12/15 7:01pm
Classmate. I think he meant classmate.
Virginia Ute
10/12/15 7:03pm
I worked with her. Is that not a colleague?
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 7:05pm
I think most people don't refer to others as colleagues until after they start
KingDave
10/12/15 8:02pm
Gotcha. Yeah I think it might be specific to established careers for some people
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 9:05pm
He obviously knows more than I do about it
KingDave
10/12/15 6:55pm
Astronomical start up costs not necessarily a barrier
blucoug18
10/12/15 6:59pm
Partnering with IHC would help. They are extremely economically sound.
Slim
10/12/15 7:10pm
It would be interesting to see how Intermountain would respond if the BYU wanted
bretonnia
10/12/15 7:22pm
All depends on whether there is money to be made.
Virginia Ute
10/12/15 7:24pm
I can tell you one thing. Intermountain does NOT want to be affiliated with a DO
Slim
10/12/15 7:26pm
Do hospitals ever take students from multiple schools?
KingDave
10/12/15 8:07pm
All the time
Slim
10/12/15 8:13pm
Do teaching hospitals see med students as a burden but also free labor?
KingDave
10/12/15 8:16pm
Med students provide no useful services in a hospital
Rogue Gunner
10/12/15 8:23pm
Deleted my verbatim hack of Slim.
Virginia Ute
10/13/15 3:29am
Med students cause more work for everyone. Residents are the cheap labor.
Slim
10/12/15 8:31pm
I believe so, but it's rare. IIRC, some of the bigger Boston hospitals take
bretonnia
10/12/15 8:15pm
For the uninitiated among us, "DO" is Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine?
cougarmeister
10/13/15 8:55am
Correct
bretonnia
10/13/15 12:14pm
He addressed this - said it might not be as big a problem as some GAs might have
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 6:57pm
Do you have a link? I would like to read his comments
concolor couguar
10/12/15 7:05pm
It was at a meeting with a Q&E. Someone asked him if BYU would be getting
Monomachos
10/12/15 7:17pm
What are you talking about? What federal regulations would possibly impede BYU
Flyingdolphin
10/12/15 7:47pm
I think they're worried about ties to federal funding, of which US Med schools
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 9:08pm
BYU already received millions in federal funding
concolor couguar
10/12/15 10:08pm
Very possible. Maybe that's why he said he doesn't think it'd be an issue
Harrison0Yfan
10/13/15 8:12am
I'm just the messenger; that is what he said but he really did not explain it
Monomachos
10/12/15 11:02pm
I think he cited cost, I don't remember hearing anything about federal rules
Flyingdolphin
10/12/15 7:46pm
i believe the church might have 'some' interest in Provo High,
joebravo
10/12/15 6:59pm
There is absolutely nothing holding BYU back from having a med school...
IGlowInTheDark
10/12/15 7:01pm
Exactly, this is the bottom line. He said he could see it reaching a point when
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 7:03pm
I don't even buy that either.
IGlowInTheDark
10/12/15 7:12pm
That's just what he told me.
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 7:13pm
Tell him to stop lying to you.
IGlowInTheDark
10/12/15 7:19pm
Same. So many international students apply for the Match
WorfoSAUR
10/12/15 7:51pm
What if it's connected to the Perpetual Education Fund?
KingDave
10/12/15 8:10pm
That's a very interesting idea.
bretonnia
10/12/15 9:54pm
Sorry, he wasn't meaning international students themselves
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 9:09pm
how would BYU enforce an Honor Code at a med school..
joebravo
10/12/15 7:06pm
Does BYU enforce it with their grad programs?
Virginia Ute
10/12/15 7:10pm
In my program, not really.
Snipe
10/12/15 7:41pm
Stay out late? Lol.. there isn't a curfew. This isn't BYU-Idaho
Dissenter
10/13/15 7:47am
With another heart surgeon in the QoT maybe things start shifting...
BYUFam1
10/12/15 7:10pm
Elder Renlund is actually a cardiologist. Great talk in GC
WorfoSAUR
10/12/15 7:40pm
He was a resident at Hopkins right?
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 7:41pm
It's interesting to me to see the possible shift in the winds, seems it was only
BYUFBDAD
10/12/15 7:28pm
Yep, much of that is a pride issue
Harrison0Yfan
10/12/15 7:38pm
I think that Pres. Hinckley started looking closely at some data from outside
joebravo
10/12/15 7:44pm
0 for 500...really?
ds7
10/12/15 9:42pm
RE: 0 for 500...really?
joebravo
10/13/15 4:07am
This is what I've seen as well.
CougarPilot
10/13/15 12:31pm
The real question that nobody is asking in all of this is...
cougarmeister
10/13/15 9:59am
P12 might have a hard time justifying their "opinions" at that point!
Harrison0Yfan
10/13/15 2:38pm
don't worry, it's a smokescreen excuse and everyone knows it
JackStack
10/13/15 2:54pm
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